Comments on: Based on Biased Reading of New Mortality Study, Paul Cameron Gives Sen. Portman Parenting Advice

By: Bill Fortenberry

Bill Fortenberry — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:17:44 +0000

Well, Warren, I’m sure that you will strongly disagree with this, but I can’t pass up the opportunity to mention my study on the biblical statements regarding homosexuality. My research on the topic is available at: http://www.increasinglearning.com/what-the-bible-really-says-about-homosexuality.html

By: David Cary Hart

David Cary Hart — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:17:44 +0000

I read this release on my aggregator. Sadly, it is FAR from the most offensive or intellectually dishonest piece that I was confronted with today. The winner, btw, is http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/04/9970/
Anyway, I doubt that Portman will bother to tell Cameron that he is not the least bit interested in the unsolicited advice. I am no fan of Mr. Portman BUT he is sane. Mr. Cameron’s mental hygiene, on the other hand, well …

By: Gregory Peterson

Gregory Peterson — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:17:44 +0000

Bill Fortenberry: “Homosexuality” is a much abused modern era social construct with a lot of discredited scientific baggage, which Dr. Throckmorton has exposed and is exposing. The social construct of “homosexuality” didn’t exist in biblical times. They had their own social constructs. As L. P. Hartley famously wrote, “The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there.”
Genesis 19:5: Gang rape isn’t “homosexuality.” Gang rape is about violently breaking a man into becoming a slave. I would worry about a person who can’t understand the difference between gang rape and mutual consensual, adult relationships.
Leviticus 18:22: Why would a Gay man sleep with a man as with a woman? A Gay man sleeps with a man as with a man. However, a straight man might sleep with a man as with a woman. In any case, Lev. 18 is, as it says it is in the introduction, about the politics of identity, of not doing as the ancient Egyptians and Canaanites did. What they did were the fertility cult rituals listed in Chapter 18. Do not lay with a cross dressing priest to offer up a male “seed” sacrifice to Moloch/Baal/other fertility gods.
Deuteronomy 23:17-18: Condemning prostitution isn’t condemning “homosexuality,” it’s condemning prostitution.
I think I have better things to do at the moment than running down the rest of your list…

By: Ford

Ford — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:48:10 +0000

Bill Fortenberry,
What are you bringing to this dialog? I get that you believe the bible proscribes physical expressions of homosexual intimacy. I think you and Dr. Throckmorton agree on that point. But this post is about the integrity of someone who uses (often suspect) scientific studies in an attempt to stigmatize people who are gay, or, at the very least, justify their religion-based disapproval with non-religious “facts”.
I don’t really care if you disagree with gay-affirming theology. I’m interested to know if you think the ends justify the means. Are people like Paul Cameron or Peter Sprigg, who would use questionable science to gin up homophobia, should be applauded or denounced?

By: Shane Hardin

Shane Hardin — Wed, 15 May 2013 20:05:56 +0000

Mr. Fortenberry, do you enjoy shrimp? Lobster? Perhaps raw oysters?
Or
Are the clothes you are wearing right now mixed with two different materials?
If so, please do ever quote Leviticus again.