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		By: Tom Van Dyke		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And that&#039;s what we had to do with Jefferson and the Barbary pirates. Jefferson went in, we had 32 years of them fighting Americans and Jefferson went in, thumped &#039;em real good, and they said, aye, got it, we got the message, we&#039;ll leave you guys alone, we&#039;ll sign a treaty with you.
A lot of it is based on what you have to do to secure justice and to secure the protection of life and liberties for your citizens and you do what you have to do at times, but you play on the rules sometimes that the other guys have set up. &lt;/i&gt;
That&#039;s exactly what I thought he was trying to say from the first, and said so.  He&#039;s owed an apology from all those who said otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And that&#8217;s what we had to do with Jefferson and the Barbary pirates. Jefferson went in, we had 32 years of them fighting Americans and Jefferson went in, thumped &#8217;em real good, and they said, aye, got it, we got the message, we&#8217;ll leave you guys alone, we&#8217;ll sign a treaty with you.<br />
A lot of it is based on what you have to do to secure justice and to secure the protection of life and liberties for your citizens and you do what you have to do at times, but you play on the rules sometimes that the other guys have set up. </i><br />
That&#8217;s exactly what I thought he was trying to say from the first, and said so.  He&#8217;s owed an apology from all those who said otherwise.</p>
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He begins by saying in war &quot;you have to go beyond what you would like to do, but that&#039;s what you have to do to save lives.He certainly seemed to be arguing that the destruction of Indian tribes was a just response of the English]]></description>
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He begins by saying in war &#8220;you have to go beyond what you would like to do, but that&#8217;s what you have to do to save lives.He certainly seemed to be arguing that the destruction of Indian tribes was a just response of the English</p>
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		By: Gulnara Sevalikova		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is UP with these Anglophile preacher /teachers ??     It&#039;s true that torture is ALWAYS BAD.  Just ask us ex-Soviets what facing that can do to to your mind sometime !     But,if you claim to be a Christian and follow the New Testament, how can YOU justify genocide,coveting a continent that is occupied and settled by someone already there, importing slaves from yet ANOTHER continent, exporting the tribespeople to Morroco and the West Indies who survived King Philip&#039;s War,including a young child of King Philip ?  What about personal and moral restraint, recognizing that Jesus said to go out not obsessed with one&#039;s material things, doing good-NO killing allowed. Then there is Paul, who mentions treating those you visit with RESPECT.  Now, if one never responded to the Gospel that&#039;s on them-but you have no moral precedent to kill or enslave anyone-if you actually believe in the New Testment.   I don&#039;t know a lot about David Barton, but  I kind of wonder if he may have fascist inclinations, or see himself as a Euro-jihadist of some sort.  If so, it&#039;s too bad for his followers.   I&#039;m going to look him up on Google to find more facts on where he stands on said isues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is UP with these Anglophile preacher /teachers ??     It&#8217;s true that torture is ALWAYS BAD.  Just ask us ex-Soviets what facing that can do to to your mind sometime !     But,if you claim to be a Christian and follow the New Testament, how can YOU justify genocide,coveting a continent that is occupied and settled by someone already there, importing slaves from yet ANOTHER continent, exporting the tribespeople to Morroco and the West Indies who survived King Philip&#8217;s War,including a young child of King Philip ?  What about personal and moral restraint, recognizing that Jesus said to go out not obsessed with one&#8217;s material things, doing good-NO killing allowed. Then there is Paul, who mentions treating those you visit with RESPECT.  Now, if one never responded to the Gospel that&#8217;s on them-but you have no moral precedent to kill or enslave anyone-if you actually believe in the New Testment.   I don&#8217;t know a lot about David Barton, but  I kind of wonder if he may have fascist inclinations, or see himself as a Euro-jihadist of some sort.  If so, it&#8217;s too bad for his followers.   I&#8217;m going to look him up on Google to find more facts on where he stands on said isues.</p>
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		By: Gulnara Sevalikova		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is UP with these Anglophile preacher /teachers ??     It&#039;s true that torture is ALWAYS BAD.  Just ask us ex-Soviets what facing that can do to to your mind sometime !     But,if you claim to be a Christian and follow the New Testament, how can YOU justify genocide,coveting a continent that is occupied and settled by someone already there, importing slaves from yet ANOTHER continent, exporting the tribespeople to Morroco and the West Indies who survived King Philip&#039;s War,including a young child of King Philip ?  What about personal and moral restraint, recognizing that Jesus said to go out not obsessed with one&#039;s material things, doing good-NO killing allowed. Then there is Paul, who mentions treating those you visit with RESPECT.  Now, if one never responded to the Gospel that&#039;s on them-but you have no moral precedent to kill or enslave anyone-if you actually believe in the New Testment.   I don&#039;t know a lot about David Barton, but  I kind of wonder if he may have fascist inclinations, or see himself as a Euro-jihadist of some sort.  If so, it&#039;s too bad for his followers.   I&#039;m going to look him up on Google to find more facts on where he stands on said isues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is UP with these Anglophile preacher /teachers ??     It&#8217;s true that torture is ALWAYS BAD.  Just ask us ex-Soviets what facing that can do to to your mind sometime !     But,if you claim to be a Christian and follow the New Testament, how can YOU justify genocide,coveting a continent that is occupied and settled by someone already there, importing slaves from yet ANOTHER continent, exporting the tribespeople to Morroco and the West Indies who survived King Philip&#8217;s War,including a young child of King Philip ?  What about personal and moral restraint, recognizing that Jesus said to go out not obsessed with one&#8217;s material things, doing good-NO killing allowed. Then there is Paul, who mentions treating those you visit with RESPECT.  Now, if one never responded to the Gospel that&#8217;s on them-but you have no moral precedent to kill or enslave anyone-if you actually believe in the New Testment.   I don&#8217;t know a lot about David Barton, but  I kind of wonder if he may have fascist inclinations, or see himself as a Euro-jihadist of some sort.  If so, it&#8217;s too bad for his followers.   I&#8217;m going to look him up on Google to find more facts on where he stands on said isues.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Van Dyke says:
April 11, 2013 at 4:34 pm
&quot;Just enough to get the Indians to quit.&quot;
Really, and your evidence that it was &quot;just enough&quot; is what?  &quot;The ends justify the means&quot; is a more apt phrase to describe the argument for the colonists.
&quot;Like Hiroshima. &quot;
Yes, but not in the way you meant.  Like Hiroshima (and Nagasaka) I suspect there were other less deadly ways King Philips war could have been ended.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Van Dyke says:<br />
April 11, 2013 at 4:34 pm<br />
&#8220;Just enough to get the Indians to quit.&#8221;<br />
Really, and your evidence that it was &#8220;just enough&#8221; is what?  &#8220;The ends justify the means&#8221; is a more apt phrase to describe the argument for the colonists.<br />
&#8220;Like Hiroshima. &#8221;<br />
Yes, but not in the way you meant.  Like Hiroshima (and Nagasaka) I suspect there were other less deadly ways King Philips war could have been ended.</p>
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