Comments on: Book written by Tim Ballard endorsed by David Barton claims American colonists were Ephraimites https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:42:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/#comment-94498 Wed, 30 May 2018 21:34:25 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14236#comment-94498 In reply to Patrocles.

Pat – British Israelism is only one aspect of Mormon doctrine asserted in the book and it is not held by any evangelical group today that I know of. The book is an historical justification for the Book of Mormon without references to the BoM or an alert to the reader that it functions that way. Whether knowingly or not, there is great potential for his endorsement to confuse a lot of people.

]]> By: Tom Van Dyke https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/#comment-91271 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:55:04 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14236#comment-91271 Tom Van Dyke – What do Paine’s views have to do with the Abrahamic covenant?
Paine’s argument is similar, is all. If you need to get more literal about it, we have the infidels Jefferson and Franklin proposing as the reverse side of the national seal God leading the Israelites as a Pillar of Fire.
http://www.greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/
The problem with these Barton-bashes is that people end up even more ignorant than they started. But now we begin to see how common the idea of God having a special relationship with America actually was.
I think Barton has betrayed his evangelical supporters by endorsing this book. I know a lot of my friends are re-thinking what Barton’s motives are. to me, it looks like he is mostly interested in being accepted by Glenn Beck, and his Mormon audience.
Or, as Bill Fortenberry says,
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Barton isn’t too thorough in reading what he endorses. Which fits. Sort of like many of his factoids. And it would be an irony if he were brought down for his lack of rigor by his own customers rather than the usual left-wingers, whose motives are no less questionable.

]]> By: Tom Van Dyke https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/#comment-91273 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:55:04 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14236#comment-91273 Given his endorsement, Barton seems to believe there is some relationship between the Abrahamic covenant and the arrival of the English to American shores.
Thomas Paine, Common Sense: “Even the distance at which the Almighty hath placed England and America is a strong and natural proof that the authority of the one over the other, was never the design of Heaven. The time likewise at which the Continent was discovered, adds weight to the argument, and the manner in which it was peopled, encreases the force of it. The Reformation was preceded by the discovery of America: As if the Almighty graciously meant to open a sanctuary to the persecuted in future years, when home should afford neither friendship nor safety.”
Weird, huh? Thomas Paine, the big unbeliever. Who’d-a-thunkit? [Don’t tell David Barton.]

]]> By: Jon Rowe https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/#comment-91275 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:55:04 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14236#comment-91275 David Barton should just get it over with and convert to Mormonism.

]]> By: William Birch https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/08/book-endorsed-by-david-barton-claims-american-colonists-were-ephraimites/#comment-91265 Wed, 30 May 2018 19:55:04 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=14236#comment-91265 That stuff would make for good comic book material. :^)

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