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	Comments on: Uganda Watch: MPs Want to Debate Anti-Gay in Private	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/02/uganda-watch-mps-want-to-debate-anti-gay-in-private/#comment-84172&quot;&gt;Ted Boyle&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Ted
What have I said that seeks to &#039;destroy the traditional family model&#039;?  I&#039;m merely saying that the Bahati Bill is nasty and hypocritical, and IMO bad for Uganda.  There are many Ugandans who agree with me, but many of their voices are not being heard above the homophobic din
And on the subject of &#039;the traditional family&#039;: you might wish to take a look at the private lives of some of these anti-gay agitators!  They might not be as &#039;traditional&#039; as you suppose.
As for issues like poverty and starvation: well, I take an interest in those too, but I&#039;m not going to &#039;blow my trumpet&#039; about that.
Perhaps you could give me a cogent argument for &#039;harshly punishing&#039; two honest citizens who happen to be in a same-sex relationship with each other?  And please don&#039;t abandon logic and personality responsibility and simply quote out of context fragments of Holy Scripture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/04/02/uganda-watch-mps-want-to-debate-anti-gay-in-private/#comment-84172">Ted Boyle</a>.</p>
<p>@ Ted<br />
What have I said that seeks to &#8216;destroy the traditional family model&#8217;?  I&#8217;m merely saying that the Bahati Bill is nasty and hypocritical, and IMO bad for Uganda.  There are many Ugandans who agree with me, but many of their voices are not being heard above the homophobic din<br />
And on the subject of &#8216;the traditional family&#8217;: you might wish to take a look at the private lives of some of these anti-gay agitators!  They might not be as &#8216;traditional&#8217; as you suppose.<br />
As for issues like poverty and starvation: well, I take an interest in those too, but I&#8217;m not going to &#8216;blow my trumpet&#8217; about that.<br />
Perhaps you could give me a cogent argument for &#8216;harshly punishing&#8217; two honest citizens who happen to be in a same-sex relationship with each other?  And please don&#8217;t abandon logic and personality responsibility and simply quote out of context fragments of Holy Scripture.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wondering if, now that the Public Order Management Bill has passed, Bahati would be back on the Order Paper.  He isn&#039;t, as of now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if, now that the Public Order Management Bill has passed, Bahati would be back on the Order Paper.  He isn&#8217;t, as of now.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to Langa, and his conference last month: apparently he said this of &#039;homosexuality&#039;:
&quot;Providing literature, writing books about it, standing up and saying it is OK &#8212; you should be arrested. Even if you are not in the act, you should be arrested. Anybody who tries to promote it should be arrested. That&#039;s why we need a stronger law.&quot;
One can see why the Public Order Management Bill is relevant to this whole situation; both it and Bahati Bill are really about attacks on freedom of speech and conscience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to Langa, and his conference last month: apparently he said this of &#8216;homosexuality&#8217;:<br />
&#8220;Providing literature, writing books about it, standing up and saying it is OK &#8212; you should be arrested. Even if you are not in the act, you should be arrested. Anybody who tries to promote it should be arrested. That&#8217;s why we need a stronger law.&#8221;<br />
One can see why the Public Order Management Bill is relevant to this whole situation; both it and Bahati Bill are really about attacks on freedom of speech and conscience.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interesting article from a Kenyan author: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Fixation-with-sexuality-is-unhealthy/-/440808/1906988/-/159wqb2z/-/index.html
(The author effectively makes the point that the label &#039;unAfrican&#039; is really just a bit of nonsense.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting article from a Kenyan author: <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Fixation-with-sexuality-is-unhealthy/-/440808/1906988/-/159wqb2z/-/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Fixation-with-sexuality-is-unhealthy/-/440808/1906988/-/159wqb2z/-/index.html</a><br />
(The author effectively makes the point that the label &#8216;unAfrican&#8217; is really just a bit of nonsense.)</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Order papers are still &#039;Bahati-free&#039;.  Much less talk at the moment about the Bill in the political circles with whom I&#039;m in contact.  Obviously, the UG Government is focusing on getting its budget through, and I imagine that most parliamentary time is being being spent on that.  The Public Order Management Bill 2011 has also yet to complete its passage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Order papers are still &#8216;Bahati-free&#8217;.  Much less talk at the moment about the Bill in the political circles with whom I&#8217;m in contact.  Obviously, the UG Government is focusing on getting its budget through, and I imagine that most parliamentary time is being being spent on that.  The Public Order Management Bill 2011 has also yet to complete its passage.</p>
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