Comments on: Uganda Watch: President Says There is No Discrimination Against Gays in Uganda

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:58:56 +0000

(BTW, I am not suggesting that homophobic persons are in any way per se ‘in favour’ of child abuse – but that some are unwittingly making the combatting of child sexual abuse more difficult by confusing separate issues. The situation I referred to above does IMO show how ‘muddled thinking’ on human sexuality can lead to justice not being done.)

By: Ford

Ford — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:58:56 +0000

Dr. Throckmorton –
Your wording is very charitable: “Perhaps he means there shouldn’t be such actions…”
I’m reminded of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s speech at Columbia University. When asked about the execution of people who are gay, he replied:
“In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don’t know who’s told you that we have it.”

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:58:31 +0000

I find this man, Fr Anthony Musaala, very very impressive. To me, he exudes what is good about both Uganda and Catholic Christianity.
Judge for yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaiCQyVMeE

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:23:41 +0000

A clever (open) letter to M7 from a gay Ugandan: http://allafrica.com/stories/201303220342.html?viewall=1

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:23:41 +0000

The President of Uganda could easily step into the role of the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court. Chief Justice Roberts said virtually the same thing
yesterday.
They’re both doing their best to pretend two millennia of Christian anti-gay apartheid don’t exist because gays have ALWAYS been treated as less than human.
Small wonder most gays hate Christianity with all their hearts.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:23:41 +0000

It seems that an alleged victim of abuse in the Catholic Church in UG has ‘broken cover’: http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/Archbishop-Lwanga-sacks-Fr-Musaala-over-sex-claims/-/688334/1725360/-/t6uojp/-/index.html
Obviously, the response to the allegations by Fr Anthony Musaala is a matter for the gravest concern; it is a very different response to what happened here in the UK over allegations (which did NOT involve the abuse of minors, and have since been admitted) against Keith Cardinal O’Brien. These Ugandan allegations should be taken seriously (like all allegations of this kind), and I very much hope that the new Pope will take Lwanga firmly to task over his handling of this situation.
Was Musaala’s decision to ‘go public’ wrong? I don’t think so: I have for some time been aware of a situation (involving a ‘pastor’ from another ‘brand’ of ‘christianity’), where the alleged victim’s family was afraid to go the police because they worried about the child concerned being discriminated against for being ‘gay’. Consequently, the law enforcement agencies were never involved with this alleged case of sexual abuse. The alleged victim has since – tragically – died. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: homophobia is an ally of child sexual abuse. Both must be opposed tooth and nail.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:23:41 +0000

Re. the Bill: I was told today that there is indeed another version of the Bill floating around somewhere, although, OFFICIALLY, it is still the ‘original’ October 2009 draft that is ‘in play’ as far as parliamentary procedure is concerned … so talk of an amended bill is, at the very least, premature – if not downright disingenuous.
I wonder if Scott Lively has seen this new draft; he seems to be endorsing something he claims to be the ‘revised’ Bill (though he doesn’t give details of the alleged ‘revisions’): http://www.scottlively.net/2012/12/11/why-i-endorse-the-revised-anti-homosexuality-bill-in-uganda/
(Some very tenuous arguments here … and how odd for a ‘bible-believing christian’ to rely on rabbinical oral tradition for one of his arguments. How odd also for a lawyer to say in effect, “this is pretty frightful law, but, don’t worry, folks: it might not be applied as written, so I’ll support this law.” Very odd indeed.)
Back to the notion of an amended Bill: it won’t mollify us, of course. The only good Bahati Bill is a dead Bahati Bill.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:47:31 +0000

@ Frank
I’m far from convinced that ‘most gays hate Christianity with all their hearts’. I know many gays who are very ‘good Christians’ (precisely because they are not in the business of ‘hating’). Certainly, many Ugandan gays are also Christians. I know this for a fact.
And there are Christians who are deeply concerned about the activities of those who say they Christians and would seek to perpetuate the running sore of homophobia … precisely because such activities are seen by those who are concerned to be in direct and flagrant contravention of the core values of Christianity.
Judging by his early statements on the issue, it would appear that the new Archbishop of Canterbury is clearly no illusions that homophobia remains a serious problem that needs to be addressed, and not only for the good of those who are victims of homophobia, but also for the good of the Church as a whole.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:47:31 +0000

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:59:56 +0000