Comments on: Point/Counterpoint with David Barton at World Magazine

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:08:41 +0000

In reply to Scotty G.. Scotty G - Sir, you have further unmasked me. I am undone.

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:13:33 +0000

In reply to dosthart. dosthart - While waiting for our response to Barton's rebuttal, I recommend you read our book since we take claim after claim and provide the evidence. It is unfortunate that Barton chose to simplify our arguments and not present them completely or fairly in his World article. People who have not read our book will not understand what he has done.

By: David M.

David M. — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:42 +0000

SGM, good to see you post again here. I have little of significance to add. But for the sake of conversation, I tell my little story. Some years ago, trying to reconcile my faith and sexuality, I joined an online Courage group. I had to leave before long though, when the whole group seemed bent on declaring themselves heterosexual by default, since they (generally) weren’t having regular gay sex. I couldn’t stand the doublespeak, but suspected some in the group were trying to navigate the Vatican’s barring anyone who considered themselves as gay, even if celibate, from the priesthood. I don’t know if Courage is still claiming to be a group of heterosexuals or not.

By: ken

ken — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:42 +0000

I never got through the whole Barton response, but he appears to be using the same evesion/misdirection tactics he usually does. Ex: he claims your arguments about Jefferson and slavery are “minor ” points, but never addresses the fact he misquoted the law.
Then he makes a lot of claims about how you are wrong regarding the Delaware Christians and cites a lot of references, but I suspect if I bothered to followed they would show he is again mis-citing history (so I’ll leave the heavy lifting to you and Michael 🙂 )

By: Tom Van Dyke

Tom Van Dyke — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:42 +0000

Interesting comments on this post, Warren. I don’t hold you responsible for them, exc 4 encouraging ScottyG’s. I don’t blame you for doing that either—we’re all human. But ugly attracts ugly, and then it multiplies. Ug not, lest ye be ugged. The ScottyG thing was ug.