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		By: John		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/01/08/voices-of-change-is-it-real/#comment-89667</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary - You speak of that &quot;early intervention&quot; that Andrew was recorded saying. Instead of listening to an activist with an agenda trying to tear Andrew down, maybe you should listen to the whole hour recording instead of small pieces, and then read Andrew&#039;s direct and very open response to those accusations:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/loveisanorientation/2010/07/part-3-note-to-skeptics/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary &#8211; You speak of that &#8220;early intervention&#8221; that Andrew was recorded saying. Instead of listening to an activist with an agenda trying to tear Andrew down, maybe you should listen to the whole hour recording instead of small pieces, and then read Andrew&#8217;s direct and very open response to those accusations:<br />
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/loveisanorientation/2010/07/part-3-note-to-skeptics/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.patheos.com/blogs/loveisanorientation/2010/07/part-3-note-to-skeptics/</a></p>
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		By: David Roberts		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2013/01/08/voices-of-change-is-it-real/#comment-89577</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
		I can see both men&#039;s accounts as being true.
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	That explains a great deal, but not about AJAX or Marin.]]></description>
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		I can see both men&#8217;s accounts as being true.
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<p>	That explains a great deal, but not about AJAX or Marin.</p>
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		By: Ford		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary -
I think you&#039;re right.  I completely agree with Dave above.  While I don&#039;t think what Andrew did in the mid-aughts was reparative therapy, he is on record as having advocated a sort of &quot;early intervention&quot; for what he perceived to be confused young men - he wanted to prevent the &quot;integration&quot; of &quot;gay&quot; into their identity.  His statement that he has never had &quot;any goal of &#039;changing from gay to straight.&#039;&quot; is contradicted by his past speaking programs (that he fully admits to having delivered).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary &#8211;<br />
I think you&#8217;re right.  I completely agree with Dave above.  While I don&#8217;t think what Andrew did in the mid-aughts was reparative therapy, he is on record as having advocated a sort of &#8220;early intervention&#8221; for what he perceived to be confused young men &#8211; he wanted to prevent the &#8220;integration&#8221; of &#8220;gay&#8221; into their identity.  His statement that he has never had &#8220;any goal of &#8216;changing from gay to straight.'&#8221; is contradicted by his past speaking programs (that he fully admits to having delivered).</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@John..I already had referenced / linked  Andrew&#039;s response in my post (its the same link you gave).  I put the links in my post in the hopes that people would read everything in context... and draw their own conclusions.
@Warren.. thanks for the update.
Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John..I already had referenced / linked  Andrew&#8217;s response in my post (its the same link you gave).  I put the links in my post in the hopes that people would read everything in context&#8230; and draw their own conclusions.<br />
@Warren.. thanks for the update.<br />
Dave</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John - I don&#039;t know to what you are referring.  I made no comments about early intervention - simply saying that I think both men have for themselves a different yet true experience of their time together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; I don&#8217;t know to what you are referring.  I made no comments about early intervention &#8211; simply saying that I think both men have for themselves a different yet true experience of their time together.</p>
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