Comments on: Equine Assisted Therapy Pastor Denies Gay Therapy Story

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:56:15 +0000

Patrocles – Perhaps you missed the post where I linked to half a dozen articles demonstrating that beating pillows facilitates aggression and is not now recommended by anyone in the mainstream.
The statements re: horse cure may or may not be an invention. Sure the reporter could have made it up. But if Mr. Bell is not being honest, he would not be the first person to say something to a reporter and then wish he hadn’t. I don’t know either the reporter or Mr. Bell so I am reporting it all.

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:27 +0000

Warren I hope you change your headline back after reading their brochure found on Truth Wins Out.

By: Jon Trouten

Jon Trouten — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:27 +0000

I wasn’t aware that I’m acting giddy or promoting any agenda. I actually do know a bit about equine therapy through a nearby program called Miracles In Motion, which works with disabled youth and adults. I do know that it isn’t an ex-gay tool.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:27 +0000

In their defense (albeit it not strong) they call homosexuality an addiction – so I guess the equine therapy is able to lesson addictions, one of those being gay.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:27 +0000

Strange indeed .. their website alert seems to be a ‘circle the wagons’ approach .. suggesting criminal intent in those who will not enter a dialog with them. Why not simply deny that they use EAP for this and be done with it? Odd..
Anyway .. I did some fishing on the internet and found that this EAP program comes directly from a person named Greg Kersten.
I found this by following the Cowboy church’s links .. see here:
http://www.cowboychurchofva.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=142&Itemid=333
The above page has a link to the OK Corral Series here: http://www.okcorralseries.com/
ANd the OK Corral Series give credit to Greg Kersten. Greg Kersten apparently also founded the EAGALA .. an organization that he is currently suing . See here: http://gregkersten.com/
The only reference I can find to any sort of gender therapy or gay therapy is at the EAGALA site .. http://www.eagala.org/search/node/gay
As you can see on the list on the above page .. several practicers of EAP mention gender identity or gay issues as something they work on through EAP.
So there seems to be some link between EAP and this kind of therapy .. Whether Pastor Bell practices it in the programs he sponsors is unknown.
Dave

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:29:26 +0000

I have never heard of “equine therapy” or any of this story, but I think everyone should not how excited and giddy you and Wayne Besen seem to be about jumping on ANY and ALL stories (no matter how ridiculous) that you can use for your agenda. without validating any of the information. I have much more respect for him because at least he is honest about what both of your intentions are.

By: Norm!

Norm! — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:29 +0000

Hi Straightgrandmother, It would be very dishonest if Gay Star News got the story from a friend or family member. Their article specifically quotes Raymond Bell as talking to Gay Star News -- although not necessarily that he knew he was talking to their specific publication. It's understandable that Gay Star News's reporter would not disclose his profession or publication considering Bell's alleged anti-gay viewpoint. However, it's a little troubling that Gay Star News has not yet responded to Raymond Bell accusations.

By: Michael C

Michael C — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:29 +0000

“If the report is not true, Pastor Bell has been slandered.”
As StraightGrandmother pointed out, Bell has not denied using horses to “cure” homosexuality. If the information for the Gay Star article was either questionably obtained or completely fabricated, I don’t think it would be considered slander if it were actually true.

By: LEBELE

LEBELE — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:29 +0000

I usually respect Prof. Throckmorton’s writings. However, this report should have been checked out on a second source before public posting. Especially when the sources are not highly reputable academic journals or newspapers. From what has been provided on this blog, it is impossible to know the truth of the claims about Pastor Bell. If the report is not true, Pastor Bell has been slandered.

By: Zoe Brain

Zoe Brain — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:29 +0000

Some extreme homophobes have peculiar ideas.

Come to think about it, being around billy goats and stroking their heads and faces, could be a cure for male homosexuality. A male couple who feel attracted to each other could each roll in the billy goat pish or allow the goat to spray them on a daily basis. they would then give each other a wide berth for the day. Any time they feel close to sinning with each other, they allow the billy to spray them. That should calm things down. I guess it would take about twenty one days. both males would begin to associate the attraction to a person of the same sex with billy goat pish and a bbbadddd, bbaddd smell. Then you take them to a luxuriously furnished room with a wonderful perfume wafting through the room and show them pictures of females who are appropriately clothed and nice looking girls. Every time you show a picture of a woman you make them eat a chocolate or a favourite food choice. You also must make an education program that will restore their sexual balance. So bad smells are associated with same sex attraction, good food, peaceful music and positive things.

http://leedsi-ilana.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/visiting-goat-farm-and-our-first.html