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	Comments on: Ward vs. Eastern Michigan University Settled Out of Court	</title>
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		By: inca nitta		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken,



They didn&#039;t phrase it like that, they said the University allowed referrals for secular purposes but not for religious ones, but I think that any reasonable person would come to concusion that the issues mentioned above are implied.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t phrase it like that, they said the University allowed referrals for secular purposes but not for religious ones, but I think that any reasonable person would come to concusion that the issues mentioned above are implied.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[inca nitta says:

December 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm 



&quot;That was the opinion of the judges where they&#039;ve stated that University was allowing to practice referral for its practicum students for secular reasons but not for religious ones. &quot;



Again, I&#039;d ask you to cite the specific text where it says the university would allow referrals in all cases except in cases of abortion, teen sex, pre-marital sex, non-celibate gays.  I see nothing in the decision that supports that claim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inca nitta says:</p>
<p>December 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;That was the opinion of the judges where they&#8217;ve stated that University was allowing to practice referral for its practicum students for secular reasons but not for religious ones. &#8221;</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;d ask you to cite the specific text where it says the university would allow referrals in all cases except in cases of abortion, teen sex, pre-marital sex, non-celibate gays.  I see nothing in the decision that supports that claim.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[While, it&#039;s definitely a victory for Ms. Ward (btw, I heard that she is currently pursuing a counseling degree through Regents University online) because she $75,000, I am still unsure if any other conservative Christian students like her will not receive unwelcome treatments from their liberal secularist professors at EMU&#039;s counseling program, in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While, it&#8217;s definitely a victory for Ms. Ward (btw, I heard that she is currently pursuing a counseling degree through Regents University online) because she $75,000, I am still unsure if any other conservative Christian students like her will not receive unwelcome treatments from their liberal secularist professors at EMU&#8217;s counseling program, in the future.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[inca nitta says:

December 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm 



&quot;I got my impression after reading the decision of Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals.&quot;



Can you post the specific passages (or just post the page number/paragraph)? 



I&#039;ve read the entire decision and I see nothing that supports the notion the University would allow any referral except in cases of abortion, teen sex, pre-marital sex, non-celibate gays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inca nitta says:</p>
<p>December 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;I got my impression after reading the decision of Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you post the specific passages (or just post the page number/paragraph)? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the entire decision and I see nothing that supports the notion the University would allow any referral except in cases of abortion, teen sex, pre-marital sex, non-celibate gays.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken,



I think you are right about what you said in your last paragraph: the lawsuit was about the University setting specific standards for their MS in Counseling program, and these particular standards appeared legally questionable to the defendant.  To me, it appeared like the University was fine with their students referring all patients in case a conflict of interest arise, with an exception for patients such as teenagers wanting to have premarital sex, women wanting to perform abortions, and non-celibate gays.  As far as I understand the ACA Code of Ethics, there is no distinction regarding who can and cannot be referred whenever a moral dilemma arises between a counselor and a patient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I think you are right about what you said in your last paragraph: the lawsuit was about the University setting specific standards for their MS in Counseling program, and these particular standards appeared legally questionable to the defendant.  To me, it appeared like the University was fine with their students referring all patients in case a conflict of interest arise, with an exception for patients such as teenagers wanting to have premarital sex, women wanting to perform abortions, and non-celibate gays.  As far as I understand the ACA Code of Ethics, there is no distinction regarding who can and cannot be referred whenever a moral dilemma arises between a counselor and a patient.</p>
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