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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-90693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;SG said:   $5.99 a month???&lt;/i&gt;



I guess you get what you pay for.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SG said:   $5.99 a month???</i></p>
<p>I guess you get what you pay for&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Jeremy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The bias here is also laughable. You take everything he said and add a rhetorical slant. David clearly said he did not do &quot;nude therapy.&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean that nudity (as used by MKP) is not helpful for overcoming body shame and other issues that may underly SSA. 



I have stopped recommending MKP to my friends because of their pro-gay bias, but I still believe that process has a lot of value in helping diminish body shame and other aspects of SSA. It is not part of Reparative Therapy itself, but it is helpful for many men with SSA. 



You&#039;re article does not address that though. Instead it is another attempt at a tabloid expose to make RT sound scandalous (like NEARLY every post here).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bias here is also laughable. You take everything he said and add a rhetorical slant. David clearly said he did not do &#8220;nude therapy.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean that nudity (as used by MKP) is not helpful for overcoming body shame and other issues that may underly SSA. </p>
<p>I have stopped recommending MKP to my friends because of their pro-gay bias, but I still believe that process has a lot of value in helping diminish body shame and other aspects of SSA. It is not part of Reparative Therapy itself, but it is helpful for many men with SSA. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re article does not address that though. Instead it is another attempt at a tabloid expose to make RT sound scandalous (like NEARLY every post here).</p>
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		By: Jeremy		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-85315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The bias here is also laughable. You take everything he said and add a rhetorical slant. David clearly said he did not do &quot;nude therapy.&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean that nudity (as used by MKP) is not helpful for overcoming body shame and other issues that may underly SSA. 



I have stopped recommending MKP to my friends because of their pro-gay bias, but I still believe that process has a lot of value in helping diminish body shame and other aspects of SSA. It is not part of Reparative Therapy itself, but it is helpful for many men with SSA. 



You&#039;re article does not address that though. Instead it is another attempt at a tabloid expose to make RT sound scandalous (like NEARLY every post here).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bias here is also laughable. You take everything he said and add a rhetorical slant. David clearly said he did not do &#8220;nude therapy.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean that nudity (as used by MKP) is not helpful for overcoming body shame and other issues that may underly SSA. </p>
<p>I have stopped recommending MKP to my friends because of their pro-gay bias, but I still believe that process has a lot of value in helping diminish body shame and other aspects of SSA. It is not part of Reparative Therapy itself, but it is helpful for many men with SSA. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re article does not address that though. Instead it is another attempt at a tabloid expose to make RT sound scandalous (like NEARLY every post here).</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-63094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, thank you Mary and Ann for your comments.  I believe we&#039;re quite on the same page with our views.  It is indeed comforting to find others that share our ideas.



Thank you, ladies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, thank you Mary and Ann for your comments.  I believe we&#8217;re quite on the same page with our views.  It is indeed comforting to find others that share our ideas.</p>
<p>Thank you, ladies.</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-85301</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, thank you Mary and Ann for your comments.  I believe we&#039;re quite on the same page with our views.  It is indeed comforting to find others that share our ideas.



Thank you, ladies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, thank you Mary and Ann for your comments.  I believe we&#8217;re quite on the same page with our views.  It is indeed comforting to find others that share our ideas.</p>
<p>Thank you, ladies.</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-63093</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although, the following is a bit off-topic and even though I&#039;m not Mormon, I&#039;m deeply impressed by the Mormon Church&#039;s new website:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormonsandgays.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mormons and Gays&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;All of us can cultivate respect and understanding for one another without compromising our deepest held beliefs.



No one fully knows the root causes of same-sex attraction. Each experience is different. Latter-day Saints recognize the enormous complexity of this matter. We simply don’t have all the answers. Attraction to those of the same sex, however, should not be viewed as a disease or illness. We must not judge anyone for the feelings they experience. Members of the Church who have same-sex attractions, but don’t act on them, can continue to enjoy full fellowship in the church, which includes holding the priesthood, carrying out callings, and attending the temple. Unlike in times past, the Church does not necessarily advise those with same-sex attraction to marry those of the opposite sex. Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is. However, through repentance Jesus Christ will offer forgiveness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



In my opinion, the wording and layout of this new website is pretty incredible.  The world is changing and in some pretty remarkable ways, for those of us with same sex attractions who choose a celibate life seem to be gaining some new found respect from others.



I do recognize, though, that this movement towards recognizing that celibate gays do exist and we&#039;re not a threat to anyone is built on the tremendous work that gays that choose different lives than mine have exerted.  Tirelessly and with great zeal, you men and women have made a difference in my life and in the world.  Thank you to Timothy Kincaid, Michael Bussee, Wayne Besen and all the myriad others who, often at great personal risk, have made life easier for celibate gays.  It has not gone unnoticed.



And, thank you, again, Warren for being at the forefront of good science harmonizing with a deep Christian Faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, the following is a bit off-topic and even though I&#8217;m not Mormon, I&#8217;m deeply impressed by the Mormon Church&#8217;s new website:  <a href="http://www.mormonsandgays.org/" rel="nofollow">Mormons and Gays</a></p>
<blockquote><p>All of us can cultivate respect and understanding for one another without compromising our deepest held beliefs.</p>
<p>No one fully knows the root causes of same-sex attraction. Each experience is different. Latter-day Saints recognize the enormous complexity of this matter. We simply don’t have all the answers. Attraction to those of the same sex, however, should not be viewed as a disease or illness. We must not judge anyone for the feelings they experience. Members of the Church who have same-sex attractions, but don’t act on them, can continue to enjoy full fellowship in the church, which includes holding the priesthood, carrying out callings, and attending the temple. Unlike in times past, the Church does not necessarily advise those with same-sex attraction to marry those of the opposite sex. Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is. However, through repentance Jesus Christ will offer forgiveness.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my opinion, the wording and layout of this new website is pretty incredible.  The world is changing and in some pretty remarkable ways, for those of us with same sex attractions who choose a celibate life seem to be gaining some new found respect from others.</p>
<p>I do recognize, though, that this movement towards recognizing that celibate gays do exist and we&#8217;re not a threat to anyone is built on the tremendous work that gays that choose different lives than mine have exerted.  Tirelessly and with great zeal, you men and women have made a difference in my life and in the world.  Thank you to Timothy Kincaid, Michael Bussee, Wayne Besen and all the myriad others who, often at great personal risk, have made life easier for celibate gays.  It has not gone unnoticed.</p>
<p>And, thank you, again, Warren for being at the forefront of good science harmonizing with a deep Christian Faith.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teresa,



I agree with Mary about what you wrote - I think &quot;freedom&quot; is the key word here and we should not have that be put in jeporady.  Thank you for your well put statement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa,</p>
<p>I agree with Mary about what you wrote &#8211; I think &#8220;freedom&#8221; is the key word here and we should not have that be put in jeporady.  Thank you for your well put statement.</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/12/06/the-reparative-therapy-makeover-continues-no-naked-therapy/#comment-85309</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although, the following is a bit off-topic and even though I&#039;m not Mormon, I&#039;m deeply impressed by the Mormon Church&#039;s new website:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mormonsandgays.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mormons and Gays&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;All of us can cultivate respect and understanding for one another without compromising our deepest held beliefs.



No one fully knows the root causes of same-sex attraction. Each experience is different. Latter-day Saints recognize the enormous complexity of this matter. We simply don&#039;t have all the answers. Attraction to those of the same sex, however, should not be viewed as a disease or illness. We must not judge anyone for the feelings they experience. Members of the Church who have same-sex attractions, but don&#039;t act on them, can continue to enjoy full fellowship in the church, which includes holding the priesthood, carrying out callings, and attending the temple. Unlike in times past, the Church does not necessarily advise those with same-sex attraction to marry those of the opposite sex. Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is. However, through repentance Jesus Christ will offer forgiveness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



In my opinion, the wording and layout of this new website is pretty incredible.  The world is changing and in some pretty remarkable ways, for those of us with same sex attractions who choose a celibate life seem to be gaining some new found respect from others.



I do recognize, though, that this movement towards recognizing that celibate gays do exist and we&#039;re not a threat to anyone is built on the tremendous work that gays that choose different lives than mine have exerted.  Tirelessly and with great zeal, you men and women have made a difference in my life and in the world.  Thank you to Timothy Kincaid, Michael Bussee, Wayne Besen and all the myriad others who, often at great personal risk, have made life easier for celibate gays.  It has not gone unnoticed.



And, thank you, again, Warren for being at the forefront of good science harmonizing with a deep Christian Faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, the following is a bit off-topic and even though I&#8217;m not Mormon, I&#8217;m deeply impressed by the Mormon Church&#8217;s new website:  <a href="http://www.mormonsandgays.org/" rel="nofollow">Mormons and Gays</a></p>
<blockquote><p>All of us can cultivate respect and understanding for one another without compromising our deepest held beliefs.</p>
<p>No one fully knows the root causes of same-sex attraction. Each experience is different. Latter-day Saints recognize the enormous complexity of this matter. We simply don&#8217;t have all the answers. Attraction to those of the same sex, however, should not be viewed as a disease or illness. We must not judge anyone for the feelings they experience. Members of the Church who have same-sex attractions, but don&#8217;t act on them, can continue to enjoy full fellowship in the church, which includes holding the priesthood, carrying out callings, and attending the temple. Unlike in times past, the Church does not necessarily advise those with same-sex attraction to marry those of the opposite sex. Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is. However, through repentance Jesus Christ will offer forgiveness.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my opinion, the wording and layout of this new website is pretty incredible.  The world is changing and in some pretty remarkable ways, for those of us with same sex attractions who choose a celibate life seem to be gaining some new found respect from others.</p>
<p>I do recognize, though, that this movement towards recognizing that celibate gays do exist and we&#8217;re not a threat to anyone is built on the tremendous work that gays that choose different lives than mine have exerted.  Tirelessly and with great zeal, you men and women have made a difference in my life and in the world.  Thank you to Timothy Kincaid, Michael Bussee, Wayne Besen and all the myriad others who, often at great personal risk, have made life easier for celibate gays.  It has not gone unnoticed.</p>
<p>And, thank you, again, Warren for being at the forefront of good science harmonizing with a deep Christian Faith.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I 2nd what Teresa wrote.  Very well written.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I 2nd what Teresa wrote.  Very well written.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;SG said:   $5.99 a month???&lt;/i&gt;



I guess you get what you pay for.....]]></description>
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<p>I guess you get what you pay for&#8230;..</p>
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