Comments on: Scott Lively and Bryan Fischer Laud Uganda as Christian Nation; Support Anti-Homosexuality Bill

By: Leonardo Ricardo

Leonardo Ricardo — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:37:43 +0000

Now this is a interesting twist of ¨who can bleed the HATE THE LGBT people vote¨ best…MP Janet (Janasty) Museveni, 1st Lady of Uganda, thinks she ought be the next President (after el Papi finishes his reign of stain)…nothing more attractive and quite normal in the Pearl of Africa than a mudwrestling/bloodwrestling bout between Herself the Speaker and Herself the Breedster of State House! Let the games begin.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:37:43 +0000

@ Jarred : A very valid question. (Of course, I try to ask myself that kind of question regularly; Lively’s and Fischer’s problem is that they may have ‘stopped asking’ becaus they think they ‘know it all’. Very dangerous.)

@ Jim : That might be very interesting. Are we allowed to have a hidden camera in there?! (The thing that always strikes me about Lively is his aggression; and it appears to me rather like the ‘aggression’ he ascribes to his ‘stereotypical macho gay’.) On second thoughts: no hidden camera … we do want a ‘family-friendly’ show here!!!

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:54:33 +0000

This excellent article in the Guardian highlights Clause 5 of the Bill: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/26/uganda-anti-homosexuality-bill

Let’s take quick look:-

5 [1] A victim of homosexuality shall not be penalized for any crime committed as a direct result of his or her involvement in homosexuality.

Think about it. It is saying that someone could say they are a ‘victim’ and then commit a crime (e.g. murder) for which they would be deemed not culpable.

This clause is a ‘licence to kill with impunity’.

(I suspect that Fischer may be unaware of this particular aspect of the Bill he says he supports, but if he is, he is condoning murder.)

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:54:33 +0000

Also one should be aware that it is not appropriate to treat ‘the Bible’ as a single text – it is a collection of different texts written by different people at different times for different audiences and for different reasons.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:54:32 +0000

Melanie is correct: M7 has no veto as such on bills passed by parliament. He can only delay things, and ‘request’ changes – according to the UG Constitution. Mind you, the Bill may well be ‘unconstitutional’ itself …

By: Jim Guinnessey

Jim Guinnessey — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:54:32 +0000

These two haters, Lively (Deadly) and Fischer, should be put in a windowless, lightless dungeon next to one another where they can try to outshout and oudo each other with their venomous verbiage. They call themselves Christians? They are anti-Christs.

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:54:32 +0000

Hatred in the name of religion is still hatred. Do you honestly think this makes God happy?

By: Melanie Nathan

Melanie Nathan — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:33:54 +0000

Note my understanding. The President assent to the Bill will make it law. However he cannot VETO it per se. Its a private members Bill and so the process is for President to assent or send it back to parliament. After its been sent back twice it can pass without the President’s signature at all. Warren, please correct me if I am wrong. People are talking about VETO and signature being necessary . Wile his signature would make it a quicker process, it does not have to be given in the long run of the process.

By: inca nitta

inca nitta — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:33:54 +0000

No, this is my pseudonym.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:33:54 +0000

Good question. I can’t answer it – but it’s very clear in the minds of many experts that the Bill will be yet another ‘HIV-disaster’.