Comments on: Bryan Fischer and the Cultural Unity of the United States

By: Patrocles

Patrocles — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:53:24 +0000

This side was once interesting as an exchange of arguments. But there’s not much of an argument here. Dr. Throckmorton obviously disapproves with what Fischer or Wall or Taylor are saying, but we don’t know why. As for their assertions, he doesn’t deny or debate their truth. As for the underlying moral ideas, he doesn’t show in which way his own ideas differ and why his own ideas are better.

I may point out that Fischer, Wall and Taylor represent the tradition of Eisenhower Republicanism (you remember Operation Wetback?), and if Eisenhower Republicanism isn’t good enough for Dr. Throckmorton, then he’s gone much more to the far left than he admitted (to himself?)

By: Randy

Randy — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:53:24 +0000

I read the “About” VDARE page and … they don’t make any sense. Have no desire to ready any of the rest.

That said, my personal opinion is that Bryan Fischer is a culture war shock jock who needs a great big “Ignore” banner running across his videos.

By: Patrocles

Patrocles — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:32 +0000

Richard,

if “racist” means “I prefer to live with my own kin”

– then what’s bad about it?

Why is it worse than “I prefer to mate with my own sex”?

In my eyes: everyone who allows the one should also allow the other.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:32 +0000

Look, Pat, let me just ‘set out a stall’ here.

Today is, for us Catholic Christians, the Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Universal King. On a personal note: I have six godchildren drawn from five different ethnic groups. This is a wonderful privilege that, in its way, speaks to me of the Eternal and Universal Kingdom, the Kingship of Christ we are celebrating especially today. In the words of the Missal this is to be “a kingdom of truth and life; a kingdom of holiness and grace; a kingdom of justice, love and peace.”

I see simply no shred of truth, life, holiness, grace, justice, love and peace in the stereotypical utterances of Fischer, the vicious impulses of Bahati, or the smears and snarking of Lively. Now, I’m far from perfect myself, but I’ll be damned if I don’t actually oppose with all non-violent and truthful means at my disposal the ‘deeds of darkness’ to which I have just alluded. I, and many others, are fed up to the back teeth with that kind of nonsense and it is high time we came out and said so.

That “kingdom of truth, life, holiness …” will never be ushered in through a narrow-minded ‘ghetto’ mentality. The Ark was thousands of years ago; God does things differently these days! (Actually, he always ‘did things differently’ – it’s just that the writers of those early bible stories were not fully aware of that. But we’ve seen The Person who is the Human Face of God, and we should know better.)

End of homily!

P.S. I can see that you, Pat, were a little ‘stung’ by my calling your “being gay = being racist” jibe ‘silly’. But you have to admit, it was a cheap shot, unworthy of serious consideration. It was indeed ‘silly’.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:27:32 +0000

@ Dan .. Fischer .. Scott Lively and company are only known in certain circles. There are plenty of Christians who don’t know them at all. There are others that might .. incredibly briefly .. read something from the AFA .. *not* critically analyze it at all .. and consider it a verification of their already held opinion regarding a certain political position … all the while never knowing of Bryan Fischer. What is visible to the public regarding Christianity is often unknown by Christians or is simply ignored by them if they do not embrace the view.

Dave