Comments on: The Founders’ Bible: Did Thomas Jefferson Base the Declaration of Independence on the Bible? https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/#comment-85681 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:02 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12475#comment-85681 In reply to oft.

No, it is not close to it.

]]> By: Tom Van Dyke https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/#comment-62647 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:53:47 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12475#comment-62647 And Roman Catholics who have come to the US have come to admire that Protestant ethic. The King of England was the head of the Anglican Church.

Actually, it was more the Calvinists. 😉

“Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson!”—Prime Minister Horace Walpole

Dr. Mark David hall, George Fox University:

Reformed leaders such as John Knox, George Buchanan, and Samuel Rutherford of Scotland, Stephanus Junius Brutus and Theodore Beza of France, and Christopher Goodman and John Ponet of England argued that inferior magistrates must resist unjust rulers and even permitted or required citizens to do so.

It is worth noting that all of these men wrote before Locke published his Two Treatises of Government and that this tradition was profoundly influential in America. Indeed, between 55 percent and 75 percent of white citizens in this era associated themselves with Calvinist churches, and members of the tradition were significantly overrepresented among American intellectual elites.

The influence of the Reformed political tradition in the Founding era is manifested in a variety of ways, but particularly noteworthy is the almost unanimous support Calvinist clergy offered to American patriots. This was noticed by the other side, as suggested by the Loyalist Peter Oliver, who railed against the “black Regiment, the dissenting Clergy, who took so active a part in the Rebellion.” King George himself reportedly referred to the War for Independence as “a Presbyterian Rebellion.” From the English perspective, British Major Harry Rooke was largely correct when he confiscated a presumably Calvinist book from an American prisoner and remarked that “[i]t is your G-d Damned Religion of this Country that ruins the Country; Damn your religion.”

http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/2011/06/did-america-have-a-christian-founding

]]> By: Tom Van Dyke https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/#comment-72866 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:53:47 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12475#comment-72866 And Roman Catholics who have come to the US have come to admire that Protestant ethic. The King of England was the head of the Anglican Church.

Actually, it was more the Calvinists. 😉

“Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson!”—Prime Minister Horace Walpole

Dr. Mark David hall, George Fox University:

Reformed leaders such as John Knox, George Buchanan, and Samuel Rutherford of Scotland, Stephanus Junius Brutus and Theodore Beza of France, and Christopher Goodman and John Ponet of England argued that inferior magistrates must resist unjust rulers and even permitted or required citizens to do so.

It is worth noting that all of these men wrote before Locke published his Two Treatises of Government and that this tradition was profoundly influential in America. Indeed, between 55 percent and 75 percent of white citizens in this era associated themselves with Calvinist churches, and members of the tradition were significantly overrepresented among American intellectual elites.

The influence of the Reformed political tradition in the Founding era is manifested in a variety of ways, but particularly noteworthy is the almost unanimous support Calvinist clergy offered to American patriots. This was noticed by the other side, as suggested by the Loyalist Peter Oliver, who railed against the “black Regiment, the dissenting Clergy, who took so active a part in the Rebellion.” King George himself reportedly referred to the War for Independence as “a Presbyterian Rebellion.” From the English perspective, British Major Harry Rooke was largely correct when he confiscated a presumably Calvinist book from an American prisoner and remarked that “[i]t is your G-d Damned Religion of this Country that ruins the Country; Damn your religion.”

http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/2011/06/did-america-have-a-christian-founding

]]> By: Jon Rowe https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/#comment-62646 Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:55:02 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12475#comment-62646 “I read somewhere that Sam Adams made a motion to change ‘the Creator’ to ‘Jesus Christ, Lord, Savior and Redeemer of Mankind.’ It was voted down. Apparently Sam Adams knew what the Creator referred to.”

I’m not sure if this is true; but if it were, would the fact that this was voted down be dispositive?

Jefferson, J. Adams and Franklin, who comprised a majority of the DOI’s drafting board, as theological unitarians, didn’t believe Jesus was “Creator.” Rather they thought He was a created being.

]]> By: Jon Rowe https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/10/29/the-founders-bible-did-thomas-jefferson-base-the-declaration-of-independence-on-the-bible/#comment-72854 Sat, 09 Mar 2013 19:55:02 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12475#comment-72854 “I read somewhere that Sam Adams made a motion to change ‘the Creator’ to ‘Jesus Christ, Lord, Savior and Redeemer of Mankind.’ It was voted down. Apparently Sam Adams knew what the Creator referred to.”

I’m not sure if this is true; but if it were, would the fact that this was voted down be dispositive?

Jefferson, J. Adams and Franklin, who comprised a majority of the DOI’s drafting board, as theological unitarians, didn’t believe Jesus was “Creator.” Rather they thought He was a created being.

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