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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Warren



Might it worth getting Hari to comment on Fischer&#039;s declared &#039;support&#039; for him?]]></description>
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<p>Might it worth getting Hari to comment on Fischer&#8217;s declared &#8216;support&#8217; for him?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Dan



I believe that Fischer is, for his own ends, actually wilfully misunderstanding Hari&#039;s thesis.  Like you, I&#039;m convinced that Hari&#039;s &#039;historical analysis&#039; is, to put it mildly, seriously defective, but Hari is not, in my view, ultimately presenting the idea that &#039;homosexuality&#039; leads to fascism (an idea so beloved by the Fischers and Livelys of this world) - rather he is warning gay people who might, for whatever reason, be tempted by fascist ideas to avoid them.  That much I can agree with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan</p>
<p>I believe that Fischer is, for his own ends, actually wilfully misunderstanding Hari&#8217;s thesis.  Like you, I&#8217;m convinced that Hari&#8217;s &#8216;historical analysis&#8217; is, to put it mildly, seriously defective, but Hari is not, in my view, ultimately presenting the idea that &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; leads to fascism (an idea so beloved by the Fischers and Livelys of this world) &#8211; rather he is warning gay people who might, for whatever reason, be tempted by fascist ideas to avoid them.  That much I can agree with.</p>
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Might it worth getting Hari to comment on Fischer&#039;s declared &#039;support&#039; for him?]]></description>
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<p>Might it worth getting Hari to comment on Fischer&#8217;s declared &#8216;support&#8217; for him?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Dan



I believe that Fischer is, for his own ends, actually wilfully misunderstanding Hari&#039;s thesis.  Like you, I&#039;m convinced that Hari&#039;s &#039;historical analysis&#039; is, to put it mildly, seriously defective, but Hari is not, in my view, ultimately presenting the idea that &#039;homosexuality&#039; leads to fascism (an idea so beloved by the Fischers and Livelys of this world) - rather he is warning gay people who might, for whatever reason, be tempted by fascist ideas to avoid them.  That much I can agree with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan</p>
<p>I believe that Fischer is, for his own ends, actually wilfully misunderstanding Hari&#8217;s thesis.  Like you, I&#8217;m convinced that Hari&#8217;s &#8216;historical analysis&#8217; is, to put it mildly, seriously defective, but Hari is not, in my view, ultimately presenting the idea that &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; leads to fascism (an idea so beloved by the Fischers and Livelys of this world) &#8211; rather he is warning gay people who might, for whatever reason, be tempted by fascist ideas to avoid them.  That much I can agree with.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are fascist and quasi-fascist movements all across Europe (Romania, Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Serbia, Italy, France) and in the US (American Nazi Party, KKK) and not only are gays not &quot;at the heart&quot; of any of these movements, there is no involvement by gays them whatsoever.  Fascism in these countries is an all-straight affair.  Thus, using Har/Fischer logic, straight people must be inherently inclined toward fascism.



Only by ignoring all of these movements and then falsely labeling gay non-fascists as fascists (e.g., Pim Fortuyn) can the discredited, plagiarist and fabulist Johann Hari make his case.  Small wonder that he has been approvingly cited on Scott Lively&#039;s blog for some years.  



The truth is that gay political views are reasonably well known through national and local polling.  Most are center-left, a decent minority are libertarian right.  A tiny fraction are far left.  And a small fraction of one percent might be found on the far right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are fascist and quasi-fascist movements all across Europe (Romania, Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Serbia, Italy, France) and in the US (American Nazi Party, KKK) and not only are gays not &#8220;at the heart&#8221; of any of these movements, there is no involvement by gays them whatsoever.  Fascism in these countries is an all-straight affair.  Thus, using Har/Fischer logic, straight people must be inherently inclined toward fascism.</p>
<p>Only by ignoring all of these movements and then falsely labeling gay non-fascists as fascists (e.g., Pim Fortuyn) can the discredited, plagiarist and fabulist Johann Hari make his case.  Small wonder that he has been approvingly cited on Scott Lively&#8217;s blog for some years.  </p>
<p>The truth is that gay political views are reasonably well known through national and local polling.  Most are center-left, a decent minority are libertarian right.  A tiny fraction are far left.  And a small fraction of one percent might be found on the far right.</p>
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