Comments on: Confirmed: David Barton’s Founders’ Bible Cites Pro-Slavery James Hammond as Proponent of America as Christian Nation

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:14:31 +0000

Throckmorton’s criticism really makes no sense. He questions how an advocate of slavery could be elevated and lauded while a group of Jewish contemporaries is not. But why should it be otherwise? The Bible condones slavery and condemns unconverted Jews, such as Hammond’s critics, to eternal damnation. If Biblical Christianity is true, then slave owners will go to a glorious reward in Heaven and Jews will be tormented and/or tortured forever and this will be a perfect and just outcome. The Founders’ Bible is simply reflecting those values, giving glory to the saved and the back of his hand to the damned.

Throckmorton is confounded because he simply cannot come to terms with the fact that his blessed holy book, ostensibly an inspired message from an infinitely wise and loving super-being, condones, and at times mandates, the enslavement of human beings as well as an assortment of atrocities, including genocide. Similarly, it condemns over 100 billion human beings to damnation, torment and/or physical torture. He just cannot deal with these sordid facts, so he acts as if the Bible is some other book, a decent book inspired by a better, non-maniacal deity.

But it is what it is. Barton should be applauded for reflecting true Biblical values.

By: James Ferguson

James Ferguson — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:13:30 +0000

Didn’t know where to share this, Warren, but here is a great interview with Daniel Boorstin on Jefferson,

http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/archives/interviews/Boorstin.htm

in relation to his book, The Lost World of Thomas Jefferson. I’ve been reading Boorstin’s The Americans: The Colonial Experience. Fascinating section on Colonial Virginia in the 18th century.

By: News4themasses

News4themasses — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:13:30 +0000

Bravo. Good post. Barton is a liar, false teacher. He’s been promoted by other false teachers in the Calvary Chapel movement. He’s a comrade to Glenn Beck, Chuck Missler, and a slew of other false promoters of misinformation. Christians especially beware of Barton.

By: Bernie

Bernie — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:12:33 +0000

Wow! A character worthy of emulation for sure! *chortle*

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:24:34 +0000

OK, Dan.

Perhaps Warren has decided to embrace ‘Christian’ Christianity (Christ first – everything else, Bible included, after that), rather than so-called ‘biblical’ Christianity ([a particular interpretation of] the Bible first – everything else, including Christ, after that).

Where I think you are getting ‘muddled’ is in your tendency apparently to accept that ‘particular interpretation’ of the diverse collection of writings that makes up the Bible. I don’t accept that interpretation (and would say that it was in fact ‘UNbiblical’, citing John 1 as my first ‘port of call’); consequently, I have no problem with Warren’s position.

I think you need to desist your apparent mental gymnastics, and work with people like Warren on practical issues, such as opposing homophobia. Don’t become obsessed by ‘intellectual disagreements’; instead, be practical and look for concrete results. That’s my advice to you, offered in good faith.

(BTW, Warren has, in the past, addressed the issue of rebellious children … but it was some time ago, and he can’t – especially in the light of the need for him to take care of his health – deal with every single instance of fundamentalist lunacy immediately as it arises!)