Comments on: Jefferson and the Bible: A Response to David Barton on the Glenn Beck Show, Part Four https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Thu, 31 May 2018 02:31:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-95644 Thu, 31 May 2018 02:31:24 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-95644 In reply to Thomas Hagedorn.

Thomas – Inventory control is different than the buyer being an investor.

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-62227 Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:53:33 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-62227 Haha, sorry, I totally read your comment wrong, Erp! Yeah, we both came to the same conclusion! 🙂

Did you read through Barton’s “Ellison” article at all?

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-62226 Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:51:13 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-62226 Yeah, but an interesting point is this: not only was Morocco (an Islamic nation) the FIRST nation to recognize the United States as a country in 1777, but the Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship (1786) is also our longest unbroken treaty. The treaty happened to be signed by Thomas Jefferson.

Also, according to the Virginia Gazette’s purchase records, Jefferson bought the George Sale’s English translation of the Quran, called “The Koran, Commonly Called the Alcoran of Mohammed,” in 1765. At this time, Jefferson was apparently working as a law clerk for George Wythe. The Revolutionary War hadn’t even taken place yet, and Jefferson purchased a Qu’ran? Hm… So when Barton writes: “Why did Jefferson own a Koran? A simple answer is: To learn the beliefs of the enemies he was fighting.”, he’s neglecting to mention the FULL story; that Jefferson had owned and read from this Qu’ran PRIOR to dealing with “Muslim terrorists,” as Barton called the Barbary Pirates. Definitely a loaded, anti-Islamist article that Barton wrote…

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-82864 Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:53:33 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-82864 Haha, sorry, I totally read your comment wrong, Erp! Yeah, we both came to the same conclusion! 🙂

Did you read through Barton’s “Ellison” article at all?

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-82865 Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:51:13 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-82865 Yeah, but an interesting point is this: not only was Morocco (an Islamic nation) the FIRST nation to recognize the United States as a country in 1777, but the Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship (1786) is also our longest unbroken treaty. The treaty happened to be signed by Thomas Jefferson.

Also, according to the Virginia Gazette’s purchase records, Jefferson bought the George Sale’s English translation of the Quran, called “The Koran, Commonly Called the Alcoran of Mohammed,” in 1765. At this time, Jefferson was apparently working as a law clerk for George Wythe. The Revolutionary War hadn’t even taken place yet, and Jefferson purchased a Qu’ran? Hm… So when Barton writes: “Why did Jefferson own a Koran? A simple answer is: To learn the beliefs of the enemies he was fighting.”, he’s neglecting to mention the FULL story; that Jefferson had owned and read from this Qu’ran PRIOR to dealing with “Muslim terrorists,” as Barton called the Barbary Pirates. Definitely a loaded, anti-Islamist article that Barton wrote…

]]> By: Erp https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-62225 Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:29:45 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-62225 Ah so he was the source of that particular bit about the Jefferson Qur’an wandering around the Internet. I did find a different piece on it at http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/quran which seems on the face to be accurate and indicates that Jefferson bought it back in 1765 as part of his legal studies. In the 1770s he went on to acquire other books about the Islamic world and to study Arabic (this is from “How Thomas Jefferson Read the Qur’?n” by Kevin Hayes, Early American Literature 39(2): 247-261.

]]> By: Erp https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-82867 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:29:45 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-82867 Ah so he was the source of that particular bit about the Jefferson Qur’an wandering around the Internet. I did find a different piece on it at http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/quran which seems on the face to be accurate and indicates that Jefferson bought it back in 1765 as part of his legal studies. In the 1770s he went on to acquire other books about the Islamic world and to study Arabic (this is from “How Thomas Jefferson Read the Qur’?n” by Kevin Hayes, Early American Literature 39(2): 247-261.

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-62224 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:38:05 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-62224 Erp, Barton wrote a WHOLE article on that on Wallbuilders. Just look up “Keith Ellison.” He tries to say Jefferson only bought the Qu’ran to “know his enemies.”

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-62223 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:33:39 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-62223 So if Thomas Jefferson subscribing to receive a copy of this Bible is evidence that he was a staunch evangelical Christian who believed in the Christian ministry and spreading Christianity throughout the world, then, likewise, Thomas Jefferson purchasing a Qu’ran means he was a staunch Muslim who believed in the teachings of Mohammed and believed in spreading Islam, right? LOL

Maybe he just wanted a copy of that particular Bible for himself because of his love of knowledge?

]]> By: Krista Vessell https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/27/jefferson-and-the-bible-a-response-to-david-barton-on-the-glenn-beck-show-part-four/#comment-82862 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:38:05 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=12101#comment-82862 Erp, Barton wrote a WHOLE article on that on Wallbuilders. Just look up “Keith Ellison.” He tries to say Jefferson only bought the Qu’ran to “know his enemies.”

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