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	Comments on: Breakpoint: David Barton Gave Us What We Wanted	</title>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[What Dan said. 



It also has taught me to raise my own game.



One of the reasons I hang out here is to ensure my own comfortable beliefs are challenged.  I&#039;d rather be corrected than win an argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Dan said. </p>
<p>It also has taught me to raise my own game.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I hang out here is to ensure my own comfortable beliefs are challenged.  I&#8217;d rather be corrected than win an argument.</p>
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		By: Andrew Zook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Zook]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[May I quote you guys, Tracy and Krista?  You have so nailed the disease that plagues a large portion of the evangelical church...a nationalistic religion that is Christ-less... and greatly deceived.  God have mercy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I quote you guys, Tracy and Krista?  You have so nailed the disease that plagues a large portion of the evangelical church&#8230;a nationalistic religion that is Christ-less&#8230; and greatly deceived.  God have mercy.</p>
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		By: Krista Vessell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Krista Vessell]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sure, Andrew.  As long as you don&#039;t take anything I said out of context.  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Andrew.  As long as you don&#8217;t take anything I said out of context.  😉</p>
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		By: Blake		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Are we all susceptible to believing things which affirm our worldview &lt;/blockquote&gt; 



YES. You have to question your assumptions. And then step back and question your new assumptions again. The trick is to accept nothing as simple. If you begin with a presumption of complexity you&#039;ll be more likely to see the realities. And even then, you have to accept that you&#039;re only seeing a part of the reality as filtered to you and as perceived by you. 



As someone who comments on and follows the culture wars closely I can tell you it happens as much on one side as on the other. People are a lot like lemmings. They run and run and run on what they think is solid ground and by the time they figure out that they&#039;re actually falling off a cliff it&#039;s too late to do anything about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Are we all susceptible to believing things which affirm our worldview </p></blockquote>
<p>YES. You have to question your assumptions. And then step back and question your new assumptions again. The trick is to accept nothing as simple. If you begin with a presumption of complexity you&#8217;ll be more likely to see the realities. And even then, you have to accept that you&#8217;re only seeing a part of the reality as filtered to you and as perceived by you. </p>
<p>As someone who comments on and follows the culture wars closely I can tell you it happens as much on one side as on the other. People are a lot like lemmings. They run and run and run on what they think is solid ground and by the time they figure out that they&#8217;re actually falling off a cliff it&#8217;s too late to do anything about it.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[By &#039;engaging in sincere introspection and honest analysis&#039;, Breakpoint is IMHO being ... well, Christian.  No serious Christian can afford not to engage in regular and rigorous examination of conscience; the same might be said for anyone who strives to take their seriously own humanity.



Of course, we all can use facts in a way that &#039;affirms our world view&#039;, and often do (and, as Zoe suggests, must constantly evaluate our behaviour in this regard and modify it as required).  The issue with Barton &#038; Co. is perhaps that they are not actually using facts at all, but rather departing from them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8216;engaging in sincere introspection and honest analysis&#8217;, Breakpoint is IMHO being &#8230; well, Christian.  No serious Christian can afford not to engage in regular and rigorous examination of conscience; the same might be said for anyone who strives to take their seriously own humanity.</p>
<p>Of course, we all can use facts in a way that &#8216;affirms our world view&#8217;, and often do (and, as Zoe suggests, must constantly evaluate our behaviour in this regard and modify it as required).  The issue with Barton &#038; Co. is perhaps that they are not actually using facts at all, but rather departing from them.</p>
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