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		By: David M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David M.]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren, thank you for keeping us apprised of what&#039;s going on with Restored Hope Ministries, and other shifts happening right now. Does this shuffling of the deck represent a meaningful change, or is this like the chairs on the Titanic being rearranged?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, thank you for keeping us apprised of what&#8217;s going on with Restored Hope Ministries, and other shifts happening right now. Does this shuffling of the deck represent a meaningful change, or is this like the chairs on the Titanic being rearranged?</p>
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		By: DAVE G		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we need to recognize that effective &quot;congruence&quot; includes a change of identity perception as &quot;a child of God and follower of Christ Jesus; never born to be gay.&quot;  Also a recognition that attraction to another person is not necessarily sexual, but if an emotional experience of sexual encounter was with another of the same sex, the brain retains that association --and sex is inherently addictive. Faith gives the person the tools to deal with this same-sex sexual attraction while maintaining person-to-person relationships with others of either sex.  Many have claimed to have eventually extinguished the psychologically-conditioned association of sex-drive with same-sex individuals, especially by developing primary relationships with &quot;straight&quot; individuals, associating with a supportive community, and avoiding the &quot;gay community&quot; with all its peer-pressuring to reject the &quot;change.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to recognize that effective &#8220;congruence&#8221; includes a change of identity perception as &#8220;a child of God and follower of Christ Jesus; never born to be gay.&#8221;  Also a recognition that attraction to another person is not necessarily sexual, but if an emotional experience of sexual encounter was with another of the same sex, the brain retains that association &#8211;and sex is inherently addictive. Faith gives the person the tools to deal with this same-sex sexual attraction while maintaining person-to-person relationships with others of either sex.  Many have claimed to have eventually extinguished the psychologically-conditioned association of sex-drive with same-sex individuals, especially by developing primary relationships with &#8220;straight&#8221; individuals, associating with a supportive community, and avoiding the &#8220;gay community&#8221; with all its peer-pressuring to reject the &#8220;change.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren, thank you for posting the following:

Restored Hope is a membership governed network dedicated to restoring hope to those broken by sexual and relational sin &lt;b&gt;especially those impacted by homosexuality&lt;/b&gt;.



I&#039;ve asked a number of questions on RHN (FB), and specifically asked the question will homosexuality be their main focus for &#039;sexual brokenness&#039;.  They never answered with the passage you&#039;ve posted; but, simply pointed me to their Doctrinal Position, which never clearly stated that homosexuality was their main focus.



Thanks for clearing this up for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, thank you for posting the following:</p>
<p>Restored Hope is a membership governed network dedicated to restoring hope to those broken by sexual and relational sin <b>especially those impacted by homosexuality</b>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve asked a number of questions on RHN (FB), and specifically asked the question will homosexuality be their main focus for &#8216;sexual brokenness&#8217;.  They never answered with the passage you&#8217;ve posted; but, simply pointed me to their Doctrinal Position, which never clearly stated that homosexuality was their main focus.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing this up for me.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I keep wondering how Joe Dallas can reconcile being part of Exodus and Restored Hope Network -- considering the fact that leaders of RHN think Alan is a poor leader and is guilty of doctrinal heresy.  Perhaps he is hoping that that both groups will send him clients and sell his books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep wondering how Joe Dallas can reconcile being part of Exodus and Restored Hope Network &#8212; considering the fact that leaders of RHN think Alan is a poor leader and is guilty of doctrinal heresy.  Perhaps he is hoping that that both groups will send him clients and sell his books.</p>
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		By: Anthony Venn-Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Venn-Brown]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[it worked Michael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it worked Michael</p>
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		By: Andria Sigler-Smalz		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just read the recommended article on &quot;Sexual Identity Therapy&quot; by Throckmorton.  Now, in reference to his comment in the above article that Exodus is utilizing the &quot;Congruence Paradigm&quot;:  Maybe an Exodus leader can weigh in on this.  But my understanding is that an Exodus ministry would not be assisting a person who deals with SSA to align their faith beliefs to their sexuality.  The &quot;Congruence Paradigm&quot; that would be promoted would be to align behavior (in regards to sexualtiy) to traditional Christian values and beliefes AS OPPOSED TO now promoting the &quot;change mentaility&quot;.    Using ambigious terminology (terminolgy that doesn&#039;t mean the same to all) causes confusion and rumors to proliferate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the recommended article on &#8220;Sexual Identity Therapy&#8221; by Throckmorton.  Now, in reference to his comment in the above article that Exodus is utilizing the &#8220;Congruence Paradigm&#8221;:  Maybe an Exodus leader can weigh in on this.  But my understanding is that an Exodus ministry would not be assisting a person who deals with SSA to align their faith beliefs to their sexuality.  The &#8220;Congruence Paradigm&#8221; that would be promoted would be to align behavior (in regards to sexualtiy) to traditional Christian values and beliefes AS OPPOSED TO now promoting the &#8220;change mentaility&#8221;.    Using ambigious terminology (terminolgy that doesn&#8217;t mean the same to all) causes confusion and rumors to proliferate.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another recommendation for those who don&#039;t know where they are headed: Wendy Gritter&#039;s New Direction ministry Canada, which does similar work to Andrew Marin&#039;s Living in the Tensions gatherings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another recommendation for those who don&#8217;t know where they are headed: Wendy Gritter&#8217;s New Direction ministry Canada, which does similar work to Andrew Marin&#8217;s Living in the Tensions gatherings.</p>
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		By: Jim L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Throckmorton



Well I&#039;m now completely confused!  



I came up for air after about a 10 years my local church without much contact with current SSA conversations, only to find that I am completely lost with the new gay Christian issues/terminology/counseling conflicts, etc.  This whole Exodus/RHN conflict, not to mention all the blurring of the lines with Justin Lee (almost through with his book).



I am a married man with children in his 40&#039;s, and I am also a physician.  I did counseling with Joe Nicolosi 15 years ago for a year (I was already married with children then).  I did not expect to become completely heterosexual, nor did I find the counseling troublesome.  On the contrary, I made much progress in just general areas common to some SSA men: passivity, passive/agressive communication; being pee-shy, pornographic addiction, marriage issues.



I went to exodus conferences around 1999 and 2000.  I didn&#039;t become ex-gay, because I was never gay, nor lived in the lifestyle.  I don&#039;t know all the recent controversy with Alan Chambers either.   But apparently I missed the memo that said Christians were cool with assuming there is now this thing called a &quot;gay orientation&quot; that is trumping any sense of Biblical authority.  Prior to recently, I thought only secularists believed that.  



I looked at the beliefs of this RHN on their website, and I can give it two thumbs up!  I don&#039;t get what so awful about it?  Is there some bait and switch I don&#039;t see?  I&#039;m not even reformed and I like it.



I recall that you had even interviewed me yourself, I thought for some publication which was to come out 6-7 years ago, but I wasn&#039;t sure what happened with that.  



I&#039;m just not getting the new use of the word gay either.  Suddenly all Christians with SSA are gay.  In my day, gay was a choice.  I still feel that way.  I didn&#039;t choose my SSA, God will heal me or not, but I do not embrace &quot;my gayness&quot; as if that is a higher identity than being a Christ-follower.



I don&#039;t buy that reparative therapy is to be condemned in its entirety.  There are amazing things in my journal from my sessions with Dr. Nicolosi that were breakthroughs for me.  And my parents don&#039;t really even fit the stereotype very well.



So a bunch of rambling thoughts that have maybe little to do with your post, but I am not sure how to freak out appropriately!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Throckmorton</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m now completely confused!  </p>
<p>I came up for air after about a 10 years my local church without much contact with current SSA conversations, only to find that I am completely lost with the new gay Christian issues/terminology/counseling conflicts, etc.  This whole Exodus/RHN conflict, not to mention all the blurring of the lines with Justin Lee (almost through with his book).</p>
<p>I am a married man with children in his 40&#8217;s, and I am also a physician.  I did counseling with Joe Nicolosi 15 years ago for a year (I was already married with children then).  I did not expect to become completely heterosexual, nor did I find the counseling troublesome.  On the contrary, I made much progress in just general areas common to some SSA men: passivity, passive/agressive communication; being pee-shy, pornographic addiction, marriage issues.</p>
<p>I went to exodus conferences around 1999 and 2000.  I didn&#8217;t become ex-gay, because I was never gay, nor lived in the lifestyle.  I don&#8217;t know all the recent controversy with Alan Chambers either.   But apparently I missed the memo that said Christians were cool with assuming there is now this thing called a &#8220;gay orientation&#8221; that is trumping any sense of Biblical authority.  Prior to recently, I thought only secularists believed that.  </p>
<p>I looked at the beliefs of this RHN on their website, and I can give it two thumbs up!  I don&#8217;t get what so awful about it?  Is there some bait and switch I don&#8217;t see?  I&#8217;m not even reformed and I like it.</p>
<p>I recall that you had even interviewed me yourself, I thought for some publication which was to come out 6-7 years ago, but I wasn&#8217;t sure what happened with that.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not getting the new use of the word gay either.  Suddenly all Christians with SSA are gay.  In my day, gay was a choice.  I still feel that way.  I didn&#8217;t choose my SSA, God will heal me or not, but I do not embrace &#8220;my gayness&#8221; as if that is a higher identity than being a Christ-follower.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy that reparative therapy is to be condemned in its entirety.  There are amazing things in my journal from my sessions with Dr. Nicolosi that were breakthroughs for me.  And my parents don&#8217;t really even fit the stereotype very well.</p>
<p>So a bunch of rambling thoughts that have maybe little to do with your post, but I am not sure how to freak out appropriately!</p>
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		By: Jim L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Throckmorton



Well I&#039;m now completely confused!  



I came up for air after about a 10 years my local church without much contact with current SSA conversations, only to find that I am completely lost with the new gay Christian issues/terminology/counseling conflicts, etc.  This whole Exodus/RHN conflict, not to mention all the blurring of the lines with Justin Lee (almost through with his book).



I am a married man with children in his 40&#039;s, and I am also a physician.  I did counseling with Joe Nicolosi 15 years ago for a year (I was already married with children then).  I did not expect to become completely heterosexual, nor did I find the counseling troublesome.  On the contrary, I made much progress in just general areas common to some SSA men: passivity, passive/agressive communication; being pee-shy, pornographic addiction, marriage issues.



I went to exodus conferences around 1999 and 2000.  I didn&#039;t become ex-gay, because I was never gay, nor lived in the lifestyle.  I don&#039;t know all the recent controversy with Alan Chambers either.   But apparently I missed the memo that said Christians were cool with assuming there is now this thing called a &quot;gay orientation&quot; that is trumping any sense of Biblical authority.  Prior to recently, I thought only secularists believed that.  



I looked at the beliefs of this RHN on their website, and I can give it two thumbs up!  I don&#039;t get what so awful about it?  Is there some bait and switch I don&#039;t see?  I&#039;m not even reformed and I like it.



I recall that you had even interviewed me yourself, I thought for some publication which was to come out 6-7 years ago, but I wasn&#039;t sure what happened with that.  



I&#039;m just not getting the new use of the word gay either.  Suddenly all Christians with SSA are gay.  In my day, gay was a choice.  I still feel that way.  I didn&#039;t choose my SSA, God will heal me or not, but I do not embrace &quot;my gayness&quot; as if that is a higher identity than being a Christ-follower.



I don&#039;t buy that reparative therapy is to be condemned in its entirety.  There are amazing things in my journal from my sessions with Dr. Nicolosi that were breakthroughs for me.  And my parents don&#039;t really even fit the stereotype very well.



So a bunch of rambling thoughts that have maybe little to do with your post, but I am not sure how to freak out appropriately!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Throckmorton</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m now completely confused!  </p>
<p>I came up for air after about a 10 years my local church without much contact with current SSA conversations, only to find that I am completely lost with the new gay Christian issues/terminology/counseling conflicts, etc.  This whole Exodus/RHN conflict, not to mention all the blurring of the lines with Justin Lee (almost through with his book).</p>
<p>I am a married man with children in his 40&#8217;s, and I am also a physician.  I did counseling with Joe Nicolosi 15 years ago for a year (I was already married with children then).  I did not expect to become completely heterosexual, nor did I find the counseling troublesome.  On the contrary, I made much progress in just general areas common to some SSA men: passivity, passive/agressive communication; being pee-shy, pornographic addiction, marriage issues.</p>
<p>I went to exodus conferences around 1999 and 2000.  I didn&#8217;t become ex-gay, because I was never gay, nor lived in the lifestyle.  I don&#8217;t know all the recent controversy with Alan Chambers either.   But apparently I missed the memo that said Christians were cool with assuming there is now this thing called a &#8220;gay orientation&#8221; that is trumping any sense of Biblical authority.  Prior to recently, I thought only secularists believed that.  </p>
<p>I looked at the beliefs of this RHN on their website, and I can give it two thumbs up!  I don&#8217;t get what so awful about it?  Is there some bait and switch I don&#8217;t see?  I&#8217;m not even reformed and I like it.</p>
<p>I recall that you had even interviewed me yourself, I thought for some publication which was to come out 6-7 years ago, but I wasn&#8217;t sure what happened with that.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not getting the new use of the word gay either.  Suddenly all Christians with SSA are gay.  In my day, gay was a choice.  I still feel that way.  I didn&#8217;t choose my SSA, God will heal me or not, but I do not embrace &#8220;my gayness&#8221; as if that is a higher identity than being a Christ-follower.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy that reparative therapy is to be condemned in its entirety.  There are amazing things in my journal from my sessions with Dr. Nicolosi that were breakthroughs for me.  And my parents don&#8217;t really even fit the stereotype very well.</p>
<p>So a bunch of rambling thoughts that have maybe little to do with your post, but I am not sure how to freak out appropriately!</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/03/a-look-inside-the-restored-hope-network/#comment-61784&quot;&gt;Craig Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Craig - The hope in the gospel is not an end to earthly struggles. The hope is in the victory over death through the redeeming work of Jesus. RHN and the change paradigm makes the gospel an instrumental means to self-improvement. There are no promises that embrace of the gospel will change orientation, make me thin, or help me grow hair. People often experience strength and support to live in alignment with their beliefs but that does not in itself constitute orientation change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/03/a-look-inside-the-restored-hope-network/#comment-61784">Craig Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Craig &#8211; The hope in the gospel is not an end to earthly struggles. The hope is in the victory over death through the redeeming work of Jesus. RHN and the change paradigm makes the gospel an instrumental means to self-improvement. There are no promises that embrace of the gospel will change orientation, make me thin, or help me grow hair. People often experience strength and support to live in alignment with their beliefs but that does not in itself constitute orientation change.</p>
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