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	Comments on: More Evidence David Barton is Wrong About Jefferson and Slavery: Robert Carter&#8217;s Emancipation Deed	</title>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also from the same site:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Darwin Debunked&lt;/b&gt; 

 It would seem the Evolution debate has never been stronger.  Learn more about some of the leading evidence that proves Darwin&#039;s theory is both un-scientific and mathematically impossible&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Or, you could look at 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa6/v135/i17/p174106_s1?isAuthorized=no&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Optimization of a genetic algorithm for searching molecular conformer space&lt;/a&gt; in the Journal of Chemical Physics, where such &quot;mathematically impossible&quot; techniques are used to solve a knotty scientific problem. 



But heck, what does the American Institute of Physics know about science?



Or &lt;a href=&quot;http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct300190u&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Optimization of a Genetic Algorithm for the Functionalization of Fullerenes&lt;/a&gt; in the Journal of Chemical Theory and Computation.



But that&#039;s only according to the American Chemical Society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also from the same site:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Darwin Debunked</b> </p>
<p> It would seem the Evolution debate has never been stronger.  Learn more about some of the leading evidence that proves Darwin&#8217;s theory is both un-scientific and mathematically impossible</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, you could look at </p>
<p><a href="http://jcp.aip.org/resource/1/jcpsa6/v135/i17/p174106_s1?isAuthorized=no" rel="nofollow">Optimization of a genetic algorithm for searching molecular conformer space</a> in the Journal of Chemical Physics, where such &#8220;mathematically impossible&#8221; techniques are used to solve a knotty scientific problem. </p>
<p>But heck, what does the American Institute of Physics know about science?</p>
<p>Or <a href="http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct300190u" rel="nofollow">Optimization of a Genetic Algorithm for the Functionalization of Fullerenes</a> in the Journal of Chemical Theory and Computation.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s only according to the American Chemical Society.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, Ron, you need to provide evidence for your statement. Why did Barton omit the section of the 1782 law on manumission which contradicted Barton&#039;s contention that Jefferson could not free his slaves? The law allowed it. Barton quoted only part of it on page 92 of The Jefferson Lies - why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Ron, you need to provide evidence for your statement. Why did Barton omit the section of the 1782 law on manumission which contradicted Barton&#8217;s contention that Jefferson could not free his slaves? The law allowed it. Barton quoted only part of it on page 92 of The Jefferson Lies &#8211; why?</p>
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		By: Timothy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s truth you&#039;re after please watch Hidden Faith of The Founding Fathers http://www.adullamfilms.com/ The entire Documentary can be seen on youtube.

If I can say it this way, this is a MUST SEE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s truth you&#8217;re after please watch Hidden Faith of The Founding Fathers <a href="http://www.adullamfilms.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.adullamfilms.com/</a> The entire Documentary can be seen on youtube.</p>
<p>If I can say it this way, this is a MUST SEE.</p>
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		By: Ron Lester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Lester]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barton has not done a whitewash of Jefferson and slavery. I read the book; I know. It is fair and accurate. Throckmorton is not displaying a Christian attitude by calling Barton a liar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barton has not done a whitewash of Jefferson and slavery. I read the book; I know. It is fair and accurate. Throckmorton is not displaying a Christian attitude by calling Barton a liar.</p>
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		By: Ron Lester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Lester]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[WT: &quot;Posts may be rejected if they include defamation, threats, namecalling, profanity, ad hominem attacks, disruptive comments, or anything else that I think creates a hostile environment for people to engage in civil dialogue.&quot;



You should practice what you preach. Calling Barton a &quot;liar&quot; is uncivil and disrespectful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WT: &#8220;Posts may be rejected if they include defamation, threats, namecalling, profanity, ad hominem attacks, disruptive comments, or anything else that I think creates a hostile environment for people to engage in civil dialogue.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should practice what you preach. Calling Barton a &#8220;liar&#8221; is uncivil and disrespectful.</p>
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		By: Tom Van Dyke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Van Dyke]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exc work, Dr. Throckmorton.  I especially appreciated that you quoted David Barton &lt;i&gt;directly&lt;/i&gt; re the radio show here



/2012/06/26/barton-continues-the-whitewash-of-jefferson-as-slave-owner-on-the-bill-martinez-show/



rather than the lazy [and often contentious] paraphrases of many of his critics.



There&#039;s usually some kernel of truth in what Barton says---that he then takes on a wild ride---but on this one, I don&#039;t even know what the kernel is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exc work, Dr. Throckmorton.  I especially appreciated that you quoted David Barton <i>directly</i> re the radio show here</p>
<p>/2012/06/26/barton-continues-the-whitewash-of-jefferson-as-slave-owner-on-the-bill-martinez-show/</p>
<p>rather than the lazy [and often contentious] paraphrases of many of his critics.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s usually some kernel of truth in what Barton says&#8212;that he then takes on a wild ride&#8212;but on this one, I don&#8217;t even know what the kernel is.</p>
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		By: Ron Lester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Lester]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jefferson called slavery a &quot;disease.&quot; Dispute that, Warren.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefferson called slavery a &#8220;disease.&#8221; Dispute that, Warren.</p>
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		By: Craig Denison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Denison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a hypothesis as to why David Barton is so adamant in whitewashing Thomas Jefferson&#039;s holding slaves.  A lot of Americans have an all-or-nothing concept of virtue.  In a worldview focused through that sort of lens, any person&#039;s deviation from what is considered virtue is enough to discredit everything that person ever contributed, created, or did.  This is particularly true of the audience that David Barton has gained through his association with Glenn Beck.



In the present day United States, even most anti-black bigots acknowledge that slavery was wrong.  This presents a problem for Barton, who is trying to claim Thomas Jefferson as being in agreement with his particular political and religious positions.  When some of Barton&#039;s supporters learn Jefferson kept slaves, they might question whether Jefferson is worthy of admiration.  



So rather than acknowledge that Thomas Jefferson was a human being, one who might have had &quot;feet of clay&quot; in some parts of his life, Barton may feel compelled  to claim over and over that Jefferson was not allowed to free his slaves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hypothesis as to why David Barton is so adamant in whitewashing Thomas Jefferson&#8217;s holding slaves.  A lot of Americans have an all-or-nothing concept of virtue.  In a worldview focused through that sort of lens, any person&#8217;s deviation from what is considered virtue is enough to discredit everything that person ever contributed, created, or did.  This is particularly true of the audience that David Barton has gained through his association with Glenn Beck.</p>
<p>In the present day United States, even most anti-black bigots acknowledge that slavery was wrong.  This presents a problem for Barton, who is trying to claim Thomas Jefferson as being in agreement with his particular political and religious positions.  When some of Barton&#8217;s supporters learn Jefferson kept slaves, they might question whether Jefferson is worthy of admiration.  </p>
<p>So rather than acknowledge that Thomas Jefferson was a human being, one who might have had &#8220;feet of clay&#8221; in some parts of his life, Barton may feel compelled  to claim over and over that Jefferson was not allowed to free his slaves.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren :

&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all, I would like to think that Christian leaders would not want to put out falsehoods. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your mileage may vary there.



 Here are some quotes from Martin Luther:



&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;&quot;Faith, must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees it must put out of sight, and wish to know nothing but the word of God&quot;&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but&#8212;more frequently than not&#8212;struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church &#8230; a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



That last was uncharacteristic, and to quote it without giving context would be  misleading. But it was said, and many Religious Ideologues apparently believe it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren :</p>
<blockquote><p>First of all, I would like to think that Christian leaders would not want to put out falsehoods. </p></blockquote>
<p>Your mileage may vary there.</p>
<p> Here are some quotes from Martin Luther:</p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;&#8221;Faith, must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees it must put out of sight, and wish to know nothing but the word of God&#8221;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but&#8212;more frequently than not&#8212;struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church &#8230; a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That last was uncharacteristic, and to quote it without giving context would be  misleading. But it was said, and many Religious Ideologues apparently believe it.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[For context, see http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/luther-what-harm-could-it-do-if-man.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For context, see <a href="http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/luther-what-harm-could-it-do-if-man.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/luther-what-harm-could-it-do-if-man.html</a></p>
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