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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[ken - sign of the apocalypse, I guess]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ken &#8211; sign of the apocalypse, I guess</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Warren .. Thanks for the fast response ..  Further question(s) .. I do notice that the co-author of SITF,  Dr Yarhouse, paints identifying as gay as more of a &#039;gay script&#039; per his book: Homosexuality and the Christian: A Guide for Parents, Pastors, and Friends.  But I know gay Christians who hold to a more conservative sexual ethic that still identify as gay .. How would SITF respond to that?  How would SITF help such an individual find congruence?  I was wondering about this since I get the impression that SITF centers on how someone identifies.  I am asking all of this to get a better idea of what this congruence model represents and to compare it to what Exodus is allegedly offering.



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While I am pleased with the ongoing changes that Alan is taking Exodus through .. I share some of Michael&#039;s concerns here regarding Alan&#039;s adaptive language and  the screening of Exodus affiliates to make sure they are following Exodus&#039;s alleged  new direction.  Also .. as I mentioned on a different thread .. if he (Alan) no longer holds to a moral imperative on how a person identifies it seems he will need to retract some of his books along with his earlier  newsletters that had this imperative.  While I acknowledge that some of these changes probably require some agreement from the Exodus board I would think Alan&#039;s newsletters and books are something he could retract / change without board approval.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Warren .. Thanks for the fast response ..  Further question(s) .. I do notice that the co-author of SITF,  Dr Yarhouse, paints identifying as gay as more of a &#8216;gay script&#8217; per his book: Homosexuality and the Christian: A Guide for Parents, Pastors, and Friends.  But I know gay Christians who hold to a more conservative sexual ethic that still identify as gay .. How would SITF respond to that?  How would SITF help such an individual find congruence?  I was wondering about this since I get the impression that SITF centers on how someone identifies.  I am asking all of this to get a better idea of what this congruence model represents and to compare it to what Exodus is allegedly offering.</p>
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<p>While I am pleased with the ongoing changes that Alan is taking Exodus through .. I share some of Michael&#8217;s concerns here regarding Alan&#8217;s adaptive language and  the screening of Exodus affiliates to make sure they are following Exodus&#8217;s alleged  new direction.  Also .. as I mentioned on a different thread .. if he (Alan) no longer holds to a moral imperative on how a person identifies it seems he will need to retract some of his books along with his earlier  newsletters that had this imperative.  While I acknowledge that some of these changes probably require some agreement from the Exodus board I would think Alan&#8217;s newsletters and books are something he could retract / change without board approval.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[As your readers are no doubt aware, several Exodus affiliates have already jumped shipped over these changes.  Now, as expected, there is conservative Christian backlash over Exodus&#039; &quot;rebranding&quot;.



&quot;Why is Exodus International Denying Therapy Works?&quot; ~ by acmedia, June 27, 2012



&quot;Exodus International is headed by Alan Chambers and has recently thrown the whole field of reparative therapy under the bus.



Today we have 2 hours planned for you that you will not want to miss. First hour, at noon Pacific, we&#039;re going to discuss Alan Chambers, the President of Exodus International who still struggles with strong homosexual feelings and his denial that therapy works and also share with you the latest from Exodus International and why you need to not support this now liberal ministry. &quot;



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/acmedia/2012/06/27/why-is-exodus-international-denying-therapy-works]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As your readers are no doubt aware, several Exodus affiliates have already jumped shipped over these changes.  Now, as expected, there is conservative Christian backlash over Exodus&#8217; &#8220;rebranding&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why is Exodus International Denying Therapy Works?&#8221; ~ by acmedia, June 27, 2012</p>
<p>&#8220;Exodus International is headed by Alan Chambers and has recently thrown the whole field of reparative therapy under the bus.</p>
<p>Today we have 2 hours planned for you that you will not want to miss. First hour, at noon Pacific, we&#8217;re going to discuss Alan Chambers, the President of Exodus International who still struggles with strong homosexual feelings and his denial that therapy works and also share with you the latest from Exodus International and why you need to not support this now liberal ministry. &#8221;</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael Bussee says:

June 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm 



&quot;this now liberal ministry. &quot;



So apparently, &quot;liberal&quot; now means people (or organizations) that accept reality.  I guess under that definition, Warren &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; qualify as liberal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Bussee says:</p>
<p>June 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;this now liberal ministry. &#8221;</p>
<p>So apparently, &#8220;liberal&#8221; now means people (or organizations) that accept reality.  I guess under that definition, Warren <em>does</em> qualify as liberal.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave,



To what extent, if any, do you think an individual share some responsiblilty for what they chose to believe about the claims Exodus made?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>To what extent, if any, do you think an individual share some responsiblilty for what they chose to believe about the claims Exodus made?</p>
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