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	Comments on: Oklahoma City Church to host Scott Lively	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-77507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-73544&quot;&gt;N&lt;/a&gt;.

I did publish it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-73544">N</a>.</p>
<p>I did publish it.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-73547</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Worth a try, I suppose.  After all, both organizations are (a) trying to &#039;rebrand&#039;, and (b) the object of at least implicit criticism by Lively himself (who is effectively calling their ilk &#039;chicken&#039; - both have in their way sought to distance themselves from Bahati&#039;s genocidal Bill).



That first interview really does call into question Lively&#039;s sanity.  Does he REALLY think that the Bahati Bill (and all that it implies) is a &#039;lesser evil&#039; than two people of the same sex living quietly together in a consensual relationship?!  My goodness me!



I take the view that Lively has two problems:-

1.  an unbridled obsession with &#039;homosexuality&#039; (which he appears careful not to define, please note), and

2.  a theology that, IMHO, has nothing to do with the core Christian orthodoxy.

Like so many people with the first problem, he seeks to make it into others&#039; problems; like so many people with the second, he appears completely unable even to consider the notion that he might just have acted wrongly (those of us who are Christians know full well that we must never lose sight of that ever-present possibility).



Something else in that interview (see first video clip) ...  

Just where is his evidence for &#039;westerners&#039; trying to &#039;homosexualize Ugandan children&#039;.  If he insists on making such accusations, then he should present evidence of a similar quality to that which led to the award of $31,000 damages against him for assaulting a woman in 1991.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth a try, I suppose.  After all, both organizations are (a) trying to &#8216;rebrand&#8217;, and (b) the object of at least implicit criticism by Lively himself (who is effectively calling their ilk &#8216;chicken&#8217; &#8211; both have in their way sought to distance themselves from Bahati&#8217;s genocidal Bill).</p>
<p>That first interview really does call into question Lively&#8217;s sanity.  Does he REALLY think that the Bahati Bill (and all that it implies) is a &#8216;lesser evil&#8217; than two people of the same sex living quietly together in a consensual relationship?!  My goodness me!</p>
<p>I take the view that Lively has two problems:-</p>
<p>1.  an unbridled obsession with &#8216;homosexuality&#8217; (which he appears careful not to define, please note), and</p>
<p>2.  a theology that, IMHO, has nothing to do with the core Christian orthodoxy.</p>
<p>Like so many people with the first problem, he seeks to make it into others&#8217; problems; like so many people with the second, he appears completely unable even to consider the notion that he might just have acted wrongly (those of us who are Christians know full well that we must never lose sight of that ever-present possibility).</p>
<p>Something else in that interview (see first video clip) &#8230;  </p>
<p>Just where is his evidence for &#8216;westerners&#8217; trying to &#8216;homosexualize Ugandan children&#8217;.  If he insists on making such accusations, then he should present evidence of a similar quality to that which led to the award of $31,000 damages against him for assaulting a woman in 1991.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-73546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scott Lively was an invited speaker.



MA Tea Party Patriots: &quot;We will not be silenced by faggots.&quot;



&quot;It apparently might come as news to these &quot;pro-family&quot; activists that all &quot;faggots&quot; are someone&#039;s family, too. Shame on them for speaking that way about the sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces even parents of millions of Americans. This is no expression of disagreement over a public policy differences. This is an attack on every American family. Hate is not an American nor a family value.&quot;





http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/16/1083675/-MA-Tea-Party-Patriots-We-will-not-be-silenced-by-faggots-]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Lively was an invited speaker.</p>
<p>MA Tea Party Patriots: &#8220;We will not be silenced by faggots.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It apparently might come as news to these &#8220;pro-family&#8221; activists that all &#8220;faggots&#8221; are someone&#8217;s family, too. Shame on them for speaking that way about the sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces even parents of millions of Americans. This is no expression of disagreement over a public policy differences. This is an attack on every American family. Hate is not an American nor a family value.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/16/1083675/-MA-Tea-Party-Patriots-We-will-not-be-silenced-by-faggots-" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/16/1083675/-MA-Tea-Party-Patriots-We-will-not-be-silenced-by-faggots-</a></p>
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		By: N		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-60698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t seem to find it.  Would you mind letting me know under what post the comment was published?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find it.  Would you mind letting me know under what post the comment was published?</p>
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		By: N		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/15/oklahoma-church-to-host-scott-lively/#comment-73534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t seem to find it.  Would you mind letting me know under what post the comment was published?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find it.  Would you mind letting me know under what post the comment was published?</p>
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