Comments on: Reparative therapy and the power of an explanation https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 22:47:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: StraightGrandmother https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-95177 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:47:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-95177 Warren there is now an audio of Nicolosi saying this

http://www.catholic.com/radio/shows/understanding-same-sex-attraction-part-i-6977#

And Warren speaking of Catholics they are really starting to Freak me out! I know you mainly stick to Evangelicals but you really should listen to this clip from Illinois

http://youtu.be/YJOnVLSFyE8

]]> By: Boo https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-92261 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:13:33 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-92261 Interesting that Blakeslee brought up J Michael Bailey in the previous thread, because the same could be said of him when he meets trans people who don’t fit his models. Of course he has the out of simply dismissing them out of hand as liars. Do you think Nicolosi would do the same when confronted with out gay men who are close to their dads? i.e. simply claim that they’re not being honest about their relationships with their fathers?

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-92257 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:13:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-92257 DAVE G says:

April 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm

“These three ingredients go a long way toward extinguishing the conditioned response associating sexual drive with same-sex individuals.”

Do you have any scientific evidence to support this claim?

]]> By: Warren Throckmorton https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-92258 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:13:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-92258 stephen – I beg your pardon? What?

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-77509 Wed, 30 May 2018 17:56:44 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-77509 In reply to Patrocles.

Patrocles – I have referred readers to several of these studies over the years and yes some of that work has been done.

You seem like you have read more than the average person and you are not aware of this work. To me, this is an illustration of the blackout in basic research that people in the ex-gay world have experienced. Their organizations have not incorporated basics in brain symmetry and development that are quite relevant to the questions you are asking.

I can’t provide citations at this point due to time, but I think a post in the future on basic brain research will be needed.

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-60688 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:17:57 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-60688 Well, I’ve just be talking to a friend who lives near a nightclub. She was bemoaning the noise, but happened to say: “you know, the only night we don’t have trouble is gay night.”

Who needs the social ‘reparative therapy’, I wonder?! 🙂

]]> By: Richard Willmer https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-79314 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:17:57 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-79314 Well, I’ve just be talking to a friend who lives near a nightclub. She was bemoaning the noise, but happened to say: “you know, the only night we don’t have trouble is gay night.”

Who needs the social ‘reparative therapy’, I wonder?! 🙂

]]> By: ken https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-60687 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:40:31 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-60687 Patrocles says:

April 18, 2012 at 6:16 am

“Are “sexual orientations” and “sexual preferences” categorically different?”

Preference is misleading because it implies there is a choice involved. And for the vast majority of people there is no choice about the gender to which they are attracted.

]]> By: StraightGrandmother https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-60686 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:16:19 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-60686 Ann, I am upset with the Vatican, the Pope, and the complete Catholic Leadership. This is flat out Hegemony.

David Barton seems to me to be small potatoes compared to the Catholic assault on our country. I’m really upset by the video and I have seen Hundreds of videos of Catholic Leaders inserting themselves into our civil secular society, this one, this one, has really sent me over the top. I’ll be damned if I will genuflect to Rome!

]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/04/12/reparative-therapy-and-the-power-of-an-explanation/#comment-60685 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:16:06 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com/?p=11374#comment-60685 Are “sexual orientations” and “sexual preferences” categorically different? Let me add only two points:

1. By introspection, I feel and observe only my preferences. Personally, I’m definitely attracted by masculinity in all ways. But if I have to choose between an androgynous male and a female, I’ve a slight preference for the female. I gladly accept being called a homosexual, as I see the necessity for broad and simple social categories, but that doesn’t influence my self-observation. (Would or should any study of my brain change my self-observation?)

2. From the view of a cultural anthropologist: Pre-modern cultures (and even pre-modern strata in our Western culture) don’t make a basic difference between homo/heterosexual males but between active/passive males. If you are an active male, it’s a mere matter of preference, if you prefer a male, female, infantile or animal object.

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