Jo – In the lists of people Cameron consulted that are available, there are no known historians. To whom are you referring?

The “truth” is: This Nation was NOT founded on Christian principles. Those who would have us believe it was like to cite that it has “prospered as long as it was guided by Bible believing principles.” NOTHING could be further from the truth.

This “nation” has prospered for the simple fact that it was sooooo teeming with natural resources that it took 500 years to deplete them. The abundance that nature had to offer on this continent was here for the simple reason that it was not as over-populated as Europe was. Period. This was indeed the land of plenty. Not so much anymore.

Further, citing the “Founding Fathers” and holding them up as ones to emulate is completely unreasonable when you consider the ‘true’ meaning of just a few excerpts from only one document in this nation’s history: The Declaration of Independence.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN are CREATED EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

*IF* the term ALL MEN referred to all HUMANS, then it would be a correct premise – but it does not. It refers to all white men who owned property. Women, or People of Color were denied equal rights by these very white men who considered themselves superior enough over all other “humans” to place themselves in the lofty position of deciding that they alone – white men – were created “equal.” Women or People of Color were denied “equal rights” by self-righteous white dudes who basically made themselves ‘lord’ over others. Do you not realize that they put themselves in “God’s” position when they decided who could or could NOT have “equal rights”? That act, in and of itself is NOT Christian by any means. Not at all.

But there is even more incriminating evidence from this very same document!

“He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”

“… the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages …”

the inhabitants of WHOSE FRONTIERS? …

the “MERCILESS INDIAN SAVAGES”?? what?!

Who was inhabiting whose frontiers? ‘White man’ was inhabiting the land of the Native People with red skin – the people that God gave this continent to. The people that “white man” stole it from by decimating the Native population via warfare and biological warfare (ie., terrorism) — white men introduced Small Pox virus to people without any immunity. Yep. Sounds like biological warfare to me.

Good works. Virtue. Jefferson believed good works would give one an advantage in the afterlife. He did not accept the doctrine of original sin.

At the moment, evangelical “Christians” like Cameron are prepared to look at Jefferson (and similar Jesus-followers) as “one of us – in spite of his deficits”. And in reverse, liberal “Christians” tend to stress their difference to Evangelicals (them being not “one of us”, but “the other”)..

But that’s a fight which can’t be won. Liberal “Christians” can hardly make plausible that Evangelicals are no Christians at all. So, if they want to disassociate themselves from Evangelicals, they must tell us (at least implicitly) that “Christianity” as the common denominator isn’t much relevant. But if Christianity is not much relevant for them, why do they call themselves Christians?

That’s why liberal Christianism tends to be transitory and to dissolve itself in universalism or transcendentalism etc.