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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another report from the Kenyan newspaper, AFRICA REVIEW, published on 21st January 2012



&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;b&gt;Same sex campaigners in Liberia are on mass mobilization exercise to attain a five thousand mark that would qualify them to push for legitimacy in the country, sources have confirmed.&lt;/b&gt;



The group leaders Leroy &quot;Ponpon&quot; Archie and Abraham Kamara said they had already amassed about $4 million in their coffers from supporters abroad. While Liberian Constitution criminalises gay and lesbian activities, the duo have vowed that they will not bow to any pressure until the &#039;Movement in Defence of Gay and Lesbian Rights&#039; is legally recognized in the West African nation.



They added that they would use the available funds to attain the required number of signatures to petition Liberian legislators to pass Gay Rights Bill.The move has however sparked widespread condemnation from Liberians including some members of the country&#039;s bi-cameral legislature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



http://www.africareview.com/News/Gay+rights+activists+looking+for+new++recruits+in+Liberia/-/979180/1311422/-/89sip8z/-/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another report from the Kenyan newspaper, AFRICA REVIEW, published on 21st January 2012</p>
<blockquote><p> <b>Same sex campaigners in Liberia are on mass mobilization exercise to attain a five thousand mark that would qualify them to push for legitimacy in the country, sources have confirmed.</b></p>
<p>The group leaders Leroy &#8220;Ponpon&#8221; Archie and Abraham Kamara said they had already amassed about $4 million in their coffers from supporters abroad. While Liberian Constitution criminalises gay and lesbian activities, the duo have vowed that they will not bow to any pressure until the &#8216;Movement in Defence of Gay and Lesbian Rights&#8217; is legally recognized in the West African nation.</p>
<p>They added that they would use the available funds to attain the required number of signatures to petition Liberian legislators to pass Gay Rights Bill.The move has however sparked widespread condemnation from Liberians including some members of the country&#8217;s bi-cameral legislature.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect, Mary, that this is the way we might have to go; money currently given to &#039;rogue&#039; governments might need be diverted to assist African refugees.



One sees the &#039;recruitment&#039; line again ... well, it is perfectly reasonable to seek to &#039;recruit&#039; people to join you in a human rights campaign.



(None of what &#039;Maazi NCO MP&#039; reports above actually justifies these latest calls for violence; all it demonstrates is that there are homophobic bloodthirsty lunatics in Liberia as well ... but I think we all knew that already - and there are some here in London as well.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect, Mary, that this is the way we might have to go; money currently given to &#8216;rogue&#8217; governments might need be diverted to assist African refugees.</p>
<p>One sees the &#8216;recruitment&#8217; line again &#8230; well, it is perfectly reasonable to seek to &#8216;recruit&#8217; people to join you in a human rights campaign.</p>
<p>(None of what &#8216;Maazi NCO MP&#8217; reports above actually justifies these latest calls for violence; all it demonstrates is that there are homophobic bloodthirsty lunatics in Liberia as well &#8230; but I think we all knew that already &#8211; and there are some here in London as well.)</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, here it comes.  I&#039;ve done for my own country and gay citizens what I can do here to support and protect equal rights.  Honestly, I&#039;m not up for the fight against a whole continent.  I only offer, that we provide citizenship to those who are persecuted for their homosexuality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here it comes.  I&#8217;ve done for my own country and gay citizens what I can do here to support and protect equal rights.  Honestly, I&#8217;m not up for the fight against a whole continent.  I only offer, that we provide citizenship to those who are persecuted for their homosexuality.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; None of what &#039;Maazi NCO MP&#039; reports above actually justifies these latest calls for violence; all it demonstrates is that there are homophobic bloodthirsty lunatics in Liberia as well &#8230; &lt;/blockquote&gt;



I can sense your frustration that Africans have bluntly refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy just like most Europeans/Americans/ Australians/Canadians/ New Zealanders.  Anyways, if you examine the news reports I posted earlier, you will notice a familiar pattern playing out in many African States. 



A bunch of local gay sex practitioners in an African nation get funding from rich European/American Patrons. Awash with cash, the local gay sex militants begin to hold provocative press conferences and going on radio to make hysterical noises about something called &quot;gay rights&quot;. Then they stage provocative events such as the invitation of members of the public to attend gay engagement ceremony in Malawi or distribute &quot;gay rights&quot; flyers in Uganda. 



Following the provocative events,ordinary citizens of the affected African nation are outraged and there are lots of condemnations from local politicians, local religious leaders and  local celebrities. A few weeks later, a brand new parliamentary bill is  tabled in that African nation to suppress the Western-instigated gay militancy. 



Western government leaders under domestic pressure from Euro-American Gay Lobbyists bark, shout and  threaten the African nation. The African nation (e.g. Burundi, Malawi, Nigeria) call their bluff and enact the anti-gay legislation....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> None of what &#8216;Maazi NCO MP&#8217; reports above actually justifies these latest calls for violence; all it demonstrates is that there are homophobic bloodthirsty lunatics in Liberia as well &#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>I can sense your frustration that Africans have bluntly refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy just like most Europeans/Americans/ Australians/Canadians/ New Zealanders.  Anyways, if you examine the news reports I posted earlier, you will notice a familiar pattern playing out in many African States. </p>
<p>A bunch of local gay sex practitioners in an African nation get funding from rich European/American Patrons. Awash with cash, the local gay sex militants begin to hold provocative press conferences and going on radio to make hysterical noises about something called &#8220;gay rights&#8221;. Then they stage provocative events such as the invitation of members of the public to attend gay engagement ceremony in Malawi or distribute &#8220;gay rights&#8221; flyers in Uganda. </p>
<p>Following the provocative events,ordinary citizens of the affected African nation are outraged and there are lots of condemnations from local politicians, local religious leaders and  local celebrities. A few weeks later, a brand new parliamentary bill is  tabled in that African nation to suppress the Western-instigated gay militancy. </p>
<p>Western government leaders under domestic pressure from Euro-American Gay Lobbyists bark, shout and  threaten the African nation. The African nation (e.g. Burundi, Malawi, Nigeria) call their bluff and enact the anti-gay legislation&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;i know at least 3 liberians, and many other people who have been to liberia. from what i have heard, liberia is one of the most backward countries in the world&#8230;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



And so for them to be less backward, Liberia should legalize sodomy---the most efficient technique of transmitting HIV/AIDS after intraveneous drug use. If Uganda which is much better off than Liberia cannot cope with the strange gay-specific illnesses such as the antibiotic-resistant rectal gonorreah  then  why should Liberia be saddled with such a problem? Does Liberia have a domestic version of the US Centre for Desease and Control?



&lt;blockquote&gt;Honestly, I&#039;m not up for the fight against a whole continent. I only offer, that we provide citizenship to those who are persecuted for their homosexuality.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I am sure a lot of smart alec Africans looking to immigrate will welcome your statement of granting automatic citizenship to anybody who claims that he or she is a gay sex practitioner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i know at least 3 liberians, and many other people who have been to liberia. from what i have heard, liberia is one of the most backward countries in the world&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>And so for them to be less backward, Liberia should legalize sodomy&#8212;the most efficient technique of transmitting HIV/AIDS after intraveneous drug use. If Uganda which is much better off than Liberia cannot cope with the strange gay-specific illnesses such as the antibiotic-resistant rectal gonorreah  then  why should Liberia be saddled with such a problem? Does Liberia have a domestic version of the US Centre for Desease and Control?</p>
<blockquote><p>Honestly, I&#8217;m not up for the fight against a whole continent. I only offer, that we provide citizenship to those who are persecuted for their homosexuality.</p>
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<p>I am sure a lot of smart alec Africans looking to immigrate will welcome your statement of granting automatic citizenship to anybody who claims that he or she is a gay sex practitioner.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quoting from the news report----



&lt;blockquote&gt; A few weeks after the United States in December announced it would consider gay rights when handing out aid, the &lt;b&gt;Movement in Defence of Gay and Lesbian Rights in Liberia began to push for the legalisation of same-sex marriage&lt;/b&gt;. This was roundly condemned and the leaders of the movement --- none of them gay -- were mobbed and had to be rescued by police &lt;b&gt;when they tried to campaign at a university campus&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting from the news report&#8212;-</p>
<blockquote><p> A few weeks after the United States in December announced it would consider gay rights when handing out aid, the <b>Movement in Defence of Gay and Lesbian Rights in Liberia began to push for the legalisation of same-sex marriage</b>. This was roundly condemned and the leaders of the movement &#8212; none of them gay &#8212; were mobbed and had to be rescued by police <b>when they tried to campaign at a university campus</b>.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921</a></p>
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		By: Bernie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lovely people! This, while her husband, the President, sits awaiting trial for crimes against humanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely people! This, while her husband, the President, sits awaiting trial for crimes against humanity.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I do not know whether or not Jewel Howard Taylor (ex-first lady of Liberia, now Senator) has seen Bahati&#039;s bill but she is proposing a similar measure. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



May be it has  nothing to do with Bahati  at all and all to do with the hysteria surrounding an attempt by a shadowy gay rights group to pressurize Liberian government  into legalizing gayism as written in this news report below:



http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do not know whether or not Jewel Howard Taylor (ex-first lady of Liberia, now Senator) has seen Bahati&#8217;s bill but she is proposing a similar measure. </p></blockquote>
<p>May be it has  nothing to do with Bahati  at all and all to do with the hysteria surrounding an attempt by a shadowy gay rights group to pressurize Liberian government  into legalizing gayism as written in this news report below:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.africasia.com/services/news_africa/article.php?ID=CNG.0c6df8157d8deebf574ce140de218d7f.921</a></p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ David M



I think your assessment sounds very reasonable, except that there are always ironies and complications, especially given the often intensely &#039;personal&#039; (as an African friend described it to me) nature of African politics.  Often things like this can come right down to personalities: A hates B, B hates C, A and C team up to get at B (perhaps by concocting this or that bill) ...



Is the Bahati Bill popular with the &#039;masses&#039;?  Probably - but the said &#039;masses&#039; almost certainly do not understand the Bill&#039;s full implications (basically they like the title, because it conforms to their prejudices).  (Bringing back capital punishment is superficially popular in the UK, but our MPs won&#039;t do it, because they understand all the implications of so doing and - on this issue at least - take seriously their responsibility to take good decisions on our behalf.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David M</p>
<p>I think your assessment sounds very reasonable, except that there are always ironies and complications, especially given the often intensely &#8216;personal&#8217; (as an African friend described it to me) nature of African politics.  Often things like this can come right down to personalities: A hates B, B hates C, A and C team up to get at B (perhaps by concocting this or that bill) &#8230;</p>
<p>Is the Bahati Bill popular with the &#8216;masses&#8217;?  Probably &#8211; but the said &#8216;masses&#8217; almost certainly do not understand the Bill&#8217;s full implications (basically they like the title, because it conforms to their prejudices).  (Bringing back capital punishment is superficially popular in the UK, but our MPs won&#8217;t do it, because they understand all the implications of so doing and &#8211; on this issue at least &#8211; take seriously their responsibility to take good decisions on our behalf.)</p>
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		By: Perkin Warbeck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would kindly ask Maazi #NCO to refrain  from libeling my country and it&#039;s citizens (Australia and Australians), thus: &quot;...can sense your frustration that Africans have bluntly refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy just like most Europeans/Americans/ Australians/Canadians/ New Zealanders.&quot;



You have no understanding of my country and the views of Australians. You are ignorant and disgustingly divisive in claiming that &quot;most&quot; &quot;refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy&quot;. 



Your posts here are full of bile and vitriol. You have nothing of which to be proud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would kindly ask Maazi #NCO to refrain  from libeling my country and it&#8217;s citizens (Australia and Australians), thus: &#8220;&#8230;can sense your frustration that Africans have bluntly refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy just like most Europeans/Americans/ Australians/Canadians/ New Zealanders.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have no understanding of my country and the views of Australians. You are ignorant and disgustingly divisive in claiming that &#8220;most&#8221; &#8220;refused to see the brighter sides of sodomy&#8221;. </p>
<p>Your posts here are full of bile and vitriol. You have nothing of which to be proud.</p>
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