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	Comments on: Ugandan Government Responds to Introduction of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re welcome, anteros.



(And things that &#039;Maazi NCO MP&#039; have said do accord with the general thesis in the article.  Interestingly, &#039;the West&#039; is not exactly given &#039;a round of applause&#039; either!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, anteros.</p>
<p>(And things that &#8216;Maazi NCO MP&#8217; have said do accord with the general thesis in the article.  Interestingly, &#8216;the West&#8217; is not exactly given &#8216;a round of applause&#8217; either!)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just seen this: http://sebaspace.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/bahati-anti-gay-bill-revived-to-teach-museveni-a-lesson/



(I do like a bit of clever politics in a good cause!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just seen this: <a href="http://sebaspace.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/bahati-anti-gay-bill-revived-to-teach-museveni-a-lesson/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sebaspace.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/bahati-anti-gay-bill-revived-to-teach-museveni-a-lesson/</a></p>
<p>(I do like a bit of clever politics in a good cause!)</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90521</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...who was saying what about propaganda?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;who was saying what about propaganda?</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We should never forget Bahati&#039;s true aim: the extermination of gay people.  He&#039;s on record saying that this is what he really wants and, in its current form, this is what the Bill is designed to deliver.  No amount of wriggling by Museveni, Maaziveni, Opolot or anyone else can disguise this.



And anteros is quite correct about arrests of gays, e.g.: http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-arrested-tortured-gay-ugandan.html



Clause 2 of the Bill has nothing to with rape or defilement; Clause 3 mandates death for both consensual and non-consensual sex.  We muzungus CAN read ... and read the Bill (with and without Tahsobya&#039;s &#039;little changes&#039;) we have.  We know what the Bill says, even if &#039;Maazi&#039; and BBC are having &#039;reading difficulties&#039;.  (The BBC has reported that the [quick] death penalty has been removed, having perhaps been fooled by Trashy Tashy&#039;s little &#039;play on words&#039; last May.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should never forget Bahati&#8217;s true aim: the extermination of gay people.  He&#8217;s on record saying that this is what he really wants and, in its current form, this is what the Bill is designed to deliver.  No amount of wriggling by Museveni, Maaziveni, Opolot or anyone else can disguise this.</p>
<p>And anteros is quite correct about arrests of gays, e.g.: <a href="http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-arrested-tortured-gay-ugandan.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-arrested-tortured-gay-ugandan.html</a></p>
<p>Clause 2 of the Bill has nothing to with rape or defilement; Clause 3 mandates death for both consensual and non-consensual sex.  We muzungus CAN read &#8230; and read the Bill (with and without Tahsobya&#8217;s &#8216;little changes&#8217;) we have.  We know what the Bill says, even if &#8216;Maazi&#8217; and BBC are having &#8216;reading difficulties&#8217;.  (The BBC has reported that the [quick] death penalty has been removed, having perhaps been fooled by Trashy Tashy&#8217;s little &#8216;play on words&#8217; last May.)</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90532</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[interesting article! thanks Richard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting article! thanks Richard.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely!</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90517</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The designation of Bahati as a &quot;back bencher&quot; may be intended to make it seem that Bahati is an insignificant figure in Uganda. However, this is not the case. Bahati is currently the deputy chief whip for the ruling National Resistance Movement&lt;/blockquote&gt; 



The Honourable MP David Bahati (Ndorwa West) was indeed a &quot;back-bencher&quot; in 2009 when the bill was introduced. He only became deputy chief whip of the parliamentary wing of his political party recently. Therefore, the statement issued by the Executive Branch of the Ugandan State is &quot;technically correct&quot;. I must say I am pleased that the Executive will not be interfering in the democratic processes of this parliament. The cabinet ministers are free to butter up Westerners and lick their backsides, but the Executive Branch must let parliament do its work without hindrance. &lt;b&gt;No foreigner will get right of veto in our parliament&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The designation of Bahati as a &#8220;back bencher&#8221; may be intended to make it seem that Bahati is an insignificant figure in Uganda. However, this is not the case. Bahati is currently the deputy chief whip for the ruling National Resistance Movement</p></blockquote>
<p>The Honourable MP David Bahati (Ndorwa West) was indeed a &#8220;back-bencher&#8221; in 2009 when the bill was introduced. He only became deputy chief whip of the parliamentary wing of his political party recently. Therefore, the statement issued by the Executive Branch of the Ugandan State is &#8220;technically correct&#8221;. I must say I am pleased that the Executive will not be interfering in the democratic processes of this parliament. The cabinet ministers are free to butter up Westerners and lick their backsides, but the Executive Branch must let parliament do its work without hindrance. <b>No foreigner will get right of veto in our parliament</b>.</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90505</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Warren....&lt;/b&gt;  What is confusing here, and perhaps intentionally so, is the statement above that the bill would not lead to the death penalty. The plain language of the bill does require it for HIV positive people and serial offenders. And, let&#039;s remember, life in a Ugandan prison is also called for in this bill for any homosexual intimacy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about in the bill at all in the first place.  They already had a defilement law.  And this bill violates basic human rights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Warren&#8230;.</b>  What is confusing here, and perhaps intentionally so, is the statement above that the bill would not lead to the death penalty. The plain language of the bill does require it for HIV positive people and serial offenders. And, let&#8217;s remember, life in a Ugandan prison is also called for in this bill for any homosexual intimacy.</p></blockquote>
<p>They don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about in the bill at all in the first place.  They already had a defilement law.  And this bill violates basic human rights.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90516</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[even before we talk about conviction... the common practice of extortion and blackmail facilitated by discriminatory laws ensures that court is typically a secondary or tertiary actor in the victimization of lgbti citizens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even before we talk about conviction&#8230; the common practice of extortion and blackmail facilitated by discriminatory laws ensures that court is typically a secondary or tertiary actor in the victimization of lgbti citizens.</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/02/08/ugandan-government-responds-to-introduction-of-the-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-73409</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anteros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;no one in Uganda has ever been charged with the criminal offence of homosexuality&quot;



not true at all...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkXV7eUBf94]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no one in Uganda has ever been charged with the criminal offence of homosexuality&#8221;</p>
<p>not true at all&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkXV7eUBf94" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkXV7eUBf94</a></p>
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