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	Comments on: Alan Chambers: 99.9% have not experienced a change in their orientation	</title>
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		By: Pilitaaa¿		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/#comment-78870&quot;&gt;Esther Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

so you are 100% free of ssa?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/#comment-78870">Esther Davis</a>.</p>
<p>so you are 100% free of ssa?</p>
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		By: Pilitaaa¿		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/#comment-78870&quot;&gt;Esther Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

so you are 100% free of ssa?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/#comment-78870">Esther Davis</a>.</p>
<p>so you are 100% free of ssa?</p>
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		By: M. Worrell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This makes total sense to me. There is no place in Scripture that promises that God will remove temptations from us. It is entirely focused on the reality that temptations will come relentlessly, and we must be focused enough on God and His concerns that we prefer Him in the moment to the promise of the temptation, or to what we think we want or need at the time.



Certainly temptation is diminished if we remove ourselves from certain circumstances, etc. But I think this is a healthy development in thinking that will remove an insurmountable (and dubious) barrier between homosexuals and the promise of the Gospel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes total sense to me. There is no place in Scripture that promises that God will remove temptations from us. It is entirely focused on the reality that temptations will come relentlessly, and we must be focused enough on God and His concerns that we prefer Him in the moment to the promise of the temptation, or to what we think we want or need at the time.</p>
<p>Certainly temptation is diminished if we remove ourselves from certain circumstances, etc. But I think this is a healthy development in thinking that will remove an insurmountable (and dubious) barrier between homosexuals and the promise of the Gospel.</p>
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		By: Bob Finch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren, I listened to the discussion and was very impressed with the civilty shown by all participants.  And while he did say 99.9% I really wonder if he meant that to be taken as a statistic or figure of speech since he went on to acknowledge that he had met people who claimed that their sexual orientation had changed?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, I listened to the discussion and was very impressed with the civilty shown by all participants.  And while he did say 99.9% I really wonder if he meant that to be taken as a statistic or figure of speech since he went on to acknowledge that he had met people who claimed that their sexual orientation had changed?</p>
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		By: Tobias		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe I interprete too much but I have a feeling that for Mr. Chambers, &quot;being gay&quot; and &quot;homosexual orientation&quot; actually means something that has nothing to do with either attraction or behavior. I think for him it means &quot;believing that I will find fulfillment in a relationship with another man&quot; and &quot;being straight&quot; means &quot;believing that I will find fulfillment in a relationship with a woman&quot;. 



Reading the things he says from this viewpoint, it makes much more sense to me. This does not change the fact that he is not clear at all about this and so his writings are very misleading to people with another definition. If this is because he is too confused about this fact or if he chooses to be deliberately misleading, I cannot say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I interprete too much but I have a feeling that for Mr. Chambers, &#8220;being gay&#8221; and &#8220;homosexual orientation&#8221; actually means something that has nothing to do with either attraction or behavior. I think for him it means &#8220;believing that I will find fulfillment in a relationship with another man&#8221; and &#8220;being straight&#8221; means &#8220;believing that I will find fulfillment in a relationship with a woman&#8221;. </p>
<p>Reading the things he says from this viewpoint, it makes much more sense to me. This does not change the fact that he is not clear at all about this and so his writings are very misleading to people with another definition. If this is because he is too confused about this fact or if he chooses to be deliberately misleading, I cannot say.</p>
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