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	Comments on: Hillary Clinton&#8217;s Remarks Calling for Decriminalization of Homosexuality	</title>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe,



From several other dictionaries:



Inherent:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute: &quot;inherent dangers&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>From several other dictionaries:</p>
<p>Inherent:</p>
<blockquote><p>Existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute: &#8220;inherent dangers&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
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		By: joe		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the &quot;Talking Heads&quot;: They have a valid point.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Aberrant sexuality is not a fundamental liberty and defending morality is not hateful &quot;bigotry.&quot;  Hillary claims, &quot;Being gay is not a Western invention, it is a human reality.&quot;  But homosexuality is about changeable behavior -- not intrinsic, innate identity -- as evidenced by countless men and women who now live happy lives apart from homosexuality, despite once considering themselves &quot;gay&quot; or &quot;lesbian.&quot;  &lt;/blockquote&gt;



Clinton&#039;s-faulty premise-homosexuality is inherent-skews the whole article...



From Webster: intrinsic-inherent



From Webster: inherint-derive from parents



So, homosexuality is like eye color, you inherint it from your parents?



That&#039;s good science!



&lt;blockquote&gt;Clinton then appeals to the Golden Rule. I like this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Christ to the woman caught in adultery &quot;go and sin no more...unless something worse happen to you&quot;



What could be worse than being stoned to death?



Anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8220;Talking Heads&#8221;: They have a valid point.</p>
<blockquote><p>Aberrant sexuality is not a fundamental liberty and defending morality is not hateful &#8220;bigotry.&#8221;  Hillary claims, &#8220;Being gay is not a Western invention, it is a human reality.&#8221;  But homosexuality is about changeable behavior &#8212; not intrinsic, innate identity &#8212; as evidenced by countless men and women who now live happy lives apart from homosexuality, despite once considering themselves &#8220;gay&#8221; or &#8220;lesbian.&#8221;  </p></blockquote>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s-faulty premise-homosexuality is inherent-skews the whole article&#8230;</p>
<p>From Webster: intrinsic-inherent</p>
<p>From Webster: inherint-derive from parents</p>
<p>So, homosexuality is like eye color, you inherint it from your parents?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good science!</p>
<blockquote><p>Clinton then appeals to the Golden Rule. I like this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Christ to the woman caught in adultery &#8220;go and sin no more&#8230;unless something worse happen to you&#8221;</p>
<p>What could be worse than being stoned to death?</p>
<p>Anyone?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/09/hillary-clintons-remarks-calling-for-decriminalization-of-homosexuality/#comment-77887&quot;&gt;StraightGrandmother&lt;/a&gt;.

joe has been banned from this blog before and somehow he manages to evade the filter. In any case, I will leave up his last comment because the replies to it won&#039;t make sense otherwise. However, there is no need to continue since he won&#039;t be continue to troll it up here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/09/hillary-clintons-remarks-calling-for-decriminalization-of-homosexuality/#comment-77887">StraightGrandmother</a>.</p>
<p>joe has been banned from this blog before and somehow he manages to evade the filter. In any case, I will leave up his last comment because the replies to it won&#8217;t make sense otherwise. However, there is no need to continue since he won&#8217;t be continue to troll it up here.</p>
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		By: JCF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t make your children have to pay for your sins, Maazi. It&#039;s in your own enlightened self-interest, that you respect the HUMAN RIGHTS of your LGBT citizens, as the world WILL come to insist. The longer you delay, the more you sentence your children to isolation in the global community, and the inevitable deprivations that will come w/ that isolation.



I appeal to your self-interest---if your empathy for your LGBT brothers &#038; sisters is lacking. (I pray you are capable of the latter)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t make your children have to pay for your sins, Maazi. It&#8217;s in your own enlightened self-interest, that you respect the HUMAN RIGHTS of your LGBT citizens, as the world WILL come to insist. The longer you delay, the more you sentence your children to isolation in the global community, and the inevitable deprivations that will come w/ that isolation.</p>
<p>I appeal to your self-interest&#8212;if your empathy for your LGBT brothers &#038; sisters is lacking. (I pray you are capable of the latter)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Of course, I &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; support &#039;Maazi NCO&#039;s&#039; right to function as an opposition politician without fear of unjust treatment, just as I support the right of Frank Mugisha and others to advocate respect for the fundamental human rights of LGBT Ugandans.  It could be argued that the Public Order Management Bill threatens &#039;Maazi&#039;s&#039; rights, just as the Bahati Bill clearly threatens Frank&#039;s.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Of course, I <strong>do</strong> support &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217;s&#8217; right to function as an opposition politician without fear of unjust treatment, just as I support the right of Frank Mugisha and others to advocate respect for the fundamental human rights of LGBT Ugandans.  It could be argued that the Public Order Management Bill threatens &#8216;Maazi&#8217;s&#8217; rights, just as the Bahati Bill clearly threatens Frank&#8217;s.)</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[JCF



&lt;blockquote&gt;The longer you delay, the more you sentence your children to isolation in the global community, and the inevitable deprivations that will come w/ that isolation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



You are absolutely right about Maazi and his &quot;brethren&quot;. I think they want isolation though and if they pursue this course of action they will get it.  Maazi seems to think oil will save them - LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCF</p>
<blockquote><p>The longer you delay, the more you sentence your children to isolation in the global community, and the inevitable deprivations that will come w/ that isolation.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are absolutely right about Maazi and his &#8220;brethren&#8221;. I think they want isolation though and if they pursue this course of action they will get it.  Maazi seems to think oil will save them &#8211; LOL</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Clinton here is not calling for anyone to agree that homosexual behavior is in line with their religious beliefs. However, she is calling for people to act in accord with their religious beliefs about reciprocal treatment. If you don&#039;t want to be discriminated against for something intrinsic to you, then don&#039;t do it to others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Bogus propaganda !!! There is nothing &quot;intrinsic&quot; about gayism and we reject the libertarian ideology completely. Not only do we object with gayism, we are determined to eventually codify those objections into law in line with wishes of the Ugandan people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clinton here is not calling for anyone to agree that homosexual behavior is in line with their religious beliefs. However, she is calling for people to act in accord with their religious beliefs about reciprocal treatment. If you don&#8217;t want to be discriminated against for something intrinsic to you, then don&#8217;t do it to others.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bogus propaganda !!! There is nothing &#8220;intrinsic&#8221; about gayism and we reject the libertarian ideology completely. Not only do we object with gayism, we are determined to eventually codify those objections into law in line with wishes of the Ugandan people.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm....



I am thinking this whole Uganda drama was a good thing.  It brought things into bold relief.   It gives the administration an opportunity to take a stand.



I am not a public policy and diplomatic relations guy, so I don&#039;t know how the whole funding piece gets turned on and turned off in such situations.



It seems confusing to me when we are dealing with Muslim or Christian or Secular nation states...I am not sure how our assistance to Saudi Arabia is linked to human rights for women (vote, drive a car, wear clothing of their choice, etc.) for example.



My hunch is that the policy will be overlooked with countries we have the least likelihood of influencing, but are most strategically important to have some financial foothold.



My hunch is the policy will be more rigorously applied with countries that are the most financially dependent upon us and are least likely to be strategically important.



That is the way it has seemed to me with other attempts to foster human rights.



Given the activities noted on this blog about Uganda, this is a very good move.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am thinking this whole Uganda drama was a good thing.  It brought things into bold relief.   It gives the administration an opportunity to take a stand.</p>
<p>I am not a public policy and diplomatic relations guy, so I don&#8217;t know how the whole funding piece gets turned on and turned off in such situations.</p>
<p>It seems confusing to me when we are dealing with Muslim or Christian or Secular nation states&#8230;I am not sure how our assistance to Saudi Arabia is linked to human rights for women (vote, drive a car, wear clothing of their choice, etc.) for example.</p>
<p>My hunch is that the policy will be overlooked with countries we have the least likelihood of influencing, but are most strategically important to have some financial foothold.</p>
<p>My hunch is the policy will be more rigorously applied with countries that are the most financially dependent upon us and are least likely to be strategically important.</p>
<p>That is the way it has seemed to me with other attempts to foster human rights.</p>
<p>Given the activities noted on this blog about Uganda, this is a very good move.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maazi,



&lt;blockquote&gt;we do are not a colony of the western world&lt;/blockquote&gt;



And for that I thank merciful God!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maazi,</p>
<blockquote><p>we do are not a colony of the western world</p></blockquote>
<p>And for that I thank merciful God!</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The woman is just playing to Western audiences, appealing to liberals. The deviant gay vote is needed in year 2012. Like John Nagenda said recently, we do are not a colony of the western world. As far as I am in a position of authority, I will never allow my country --the pearl of africa---to become a colony of euro-american gay lobbyists and their severely compromised western governments. Clinton should first start her promotion of gayism with the pro-American royalist client rulers of those oil-rich fiefdoms in the arabian gulf. BTW, I am encouraged with what is happening in Nigeria and my own nation (Uganda) with regards to gayism and hope that other african nations will have the courage to call the bluff of that arrogant woman Mrs Clinton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman is just playing to Western audiences, appealing to liberals. The deviant gay vote is needed in year 2012. Like John Nagenda said recently, we do are not a colony of the western world. As far as I am in a position of authority, I will never allow my country &#8211;the pearl of africa&#8212;to become a colony of euro-american gay lobbyists and their severely compromised western governments. Clinton should first start her promotion of gayism with the pro-American royalist client rulers of those oil-rich fiefdoms in the arabian gulf. BTW, I am encouraged with what is happening in Nigeria and my own nation (Uganda) with regards to gayism and hope that other african nations will have the courage to call the bluff of that arrogant woman Mrs Clinton.</p>
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