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		By: Michelle Krabill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Krabill]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[So glad to have found you. You may enjoy my current series.

http://wordofawoman.com/2012/03/19/god-and-homosexuality-part-3/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So glad to have found you. You may enjoy my current series.</p>
<p><a href="http://wordofawoman.com/2012/03/19/god-and-homosexuality-part-3/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wordofawoman.com/2012/03/19/god-and-homosexuality-part-3/</a></p>
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		By: David M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David M.]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Michael, you&#039;re entitled to your opinion. But if you are referring to the message &quot;posted by Meatkins,&quot; it is quite biased, illogical and not well educated about sexual orientation. There is very strong evidence that biology is a fairly strong factor in determining orientation. But there are other factors as well. The more important point, though, is that studies are strong indeed in showing that orientation is innate, that is, it can change only to a degree and only in rare cases. The notion that every man should marry a woman is highly problematic given the innate homosexuality of some of us. I am one of many homosexual men who tried to be married to women. Sometimes it works in its own way, but often enough it falls apart, even after 20-25 years of trying. I wouldn&#039;t recommend it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Michael, you&#8217;re entitled to your opinion. But if you are referring to the message &#8220;posted by Meatkins,&#8221; it is quite biased, illogical and not well educated about sexual orientation. There is very strong evidence that biology is a fairly strong factor in determining orientation. But there are other factors as well. The more important point, though, is that studies are strong indeed in showing that orientation is innate, that is, it can change only to a degree and only in rare cases. The notion that every man should marry a woman is highly problematic given the innate homosexuality of some of us. I am one of many homosexual men who tried to be married to women. Sometimes it works in its own way, but often enough it falls apart, even after 20-25 years of trying. I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Romans 1:28 -32 is a listing of very petty, common sins (except murder) of which every human being partakes.  This follows the v 26 condemnation of same sex behavior.  Political evangelicals only wish to politicize the same sex behavior.  In this regard they are being inconsistent in the least, but brutal to a terrified minority within their own churches.



Paul seems to think that sinners are welcome in the church a few short chapters later (Romans 7 and 8); acknowledging that we are forever stuck with our shortcomings and that God&#039;s grace is more than sufficient.



How do Same Sex attracted Christians come out in their churches?  They don&#039;t or rarely.  Few have the courage or support to stand face to face, on equal footing with other members.  The support systems that are available have flaws, we can improve them; but not before we undue the profound hatred and disgust generated by the distortion of the Story of Sodom and the selective attention to Romans 1:26.  It is beyond internalizes homophobia...it is the terror of eternal damnation.



Regarding Sodom:  This is how later prophets viewed the judgement of this city.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Ezekiel 16:48-50



        As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. &quot;&#039;Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. (NIV)



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As the story goes, all the men of the city surrounded Lot and the Angels and demanded that the men should come out so they could have sex with them.  Statistically unlikely they were all gay...and even if they were, why would they be satisfied by a female concubine?



More likely this was a form of heterosexual male rape to humiliate unwanted and uninvited visitors to the town.  A form of intimidation by the leaders of the city to maintain tight control over the city by keeping &quot;unapproved people&quot; out.  Humiliate and assault them sexually, and they will happily leave and order will be restored.



Can&#039;t remember where I first found this info, but his is a &quot;weak link&quot; : http://www.christiangay.com/he_loves/sodom.htm others may know better links.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romans 1:28 -32 is a listing of very petty, common sins (except murder) of which every human being partakes.  This follows the v 26 condemnation of same sex behavior.  Political evangelicals only wish to politicize the same sex behavior.  In this regard they are being inconsistent in the least, but brutal to a terrified minority within their own churches.</p>
<p>Paul seems to think that sinners are welcome in the church a few short chapters later (Romans 7 and 8); acknowledging that we are forever stuck with our shortcomings and that God&#8217;s grace is more than sufficient.</p>
<p>How do Same Sex attracted Christians come out in their churches?  They don&#8217;t or rarely.  Few have the courage or support to stand face to face, on equal footing with other members.  The support systems that are available have flaws, we can improve them; but not before we undue the profound hatred and disgust generated by the distortion of the Story of Sodom and the selective attention to Romans 1:26.  It is beyond internalizes homophobia&#8230;it is the terror of eternal damnation.</p>
<p>Regarding Sodom:  This is how later prophets viewed the judgement of this city.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ezekiel 16:48-50</p>
<p>        As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. &#8220;&#8216;Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. (NIV)</p>
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<p>As the story goes, all the men of the city surrounded Lot and the Angels and demanded that the men should come out so they could have sex with them.  Statistically unlikely they were all gay&#8230;and even if they were, why would they be satisfied by a female concubine?</p>
<p>More likely this was a form of heterosexual male rape to humiliate unwanted and uninvited visitors to the town.  A form of intimidation by the leaders of the city to maintain tight control over the city by keeping &#8220;unapproved people&#8221; out.  Humiliate and assault them sexually, and they will happily leave and order will be restored.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember where I first found this info, but his is a &#8220;weak link&#8221; : <a href="http://www.christiangay.com/he_loves/sodom.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.christiangay.com/he_loves/sodom.htm</a> others may know better links.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure of scholarly research online .. but you might check out this book .. &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Interpretation-Commentary-Teaching-Preaching/dp/080423101X/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1323377466&#038;sr=8-5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Genesis: Interpretation : A Bible Commentary for Teaching and Preaching&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; for a more in depth analysis.



Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure of scholarly research online .. but you might check out this book .. <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Interpretation-Commentary-Teaching-Preaching/dp/080423101X/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1323377466&#038;sr=8-5" rel="nofollow">Genesis: Interpretation : A Bible Commentary for Teaching and Preaching</a></em> for a more in depth analysis.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Throbert.



David



We have also talked about this before on this thread



/2009/03/20/uganda-antigay-group-holds-first-meeting/



I was hoping for a link to a more scholarly analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Throbert.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>We have also talked about this before on this thread</p>
<p>/2009/03/20/uganda-antigay-group-holds-first-meeting/</p>
<p>I was hoping for a link to a more scholarly analysis.</p>
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