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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a similar vein: http://sdgln.com/causes/2011/12/02/how-law-blocks-hivaids-prevention-and-treatment]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar vein: <a href="http://sdgln.com/causes/2011/12/02/how-law-blocks-hivaids-prevention-and-treatment" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sdgln.com/causes/2011/12/02/how-law-blocks-hivaids-prevention-and-treatment</a></p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure &#8211; if MPs in Kampala really wish to pass the Bahati Bill, they have the power to do so, just as others have the power to respond resolutely and vigorously to such a barbaric outrage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Threaten Nigerians  with donor aid withdrawal then. Why threaten Uganda not Nigeria?. Don&#039;t tell me you are scared of the Nigerians and their control over crude oil---the crack cocaine of every western government in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sure &#8211; if MPs in Kampala really wish to pass the Bahati Bill, they have the power to do so, just as others have the power to respond resolutely and vigorously to such a barbaric outrage.</p></blockquote>
<p>Threaten Nigerians  with donor aid withdrawal then. Why threaten Uganda not Nigeria?. Don&#8217;t tell me you are scared of the Nigerians and their control over crude oil&#8212;the crack cocaine of every western government in the world.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although it must be noted that the Bill was made rather worse than the draft above by the Senate, and &#039;GBS reductions&#039; (by the UK and others) may well be triggered if it becomes law (which two previous drafts did not, of course, despite being considered by the Senate).



Of course, Nigeria is a paragon of peace and prosperity and utterly free of all violence, corruption and dishonesty; I&#039;m sure that this Bill will only serve to make Nigeria an even better place to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it must be noted that the Bill was made rather worse than the draft above by the Senate, and &#8216;GBS reductions&#8217; (by the UK and others) may well be triggered if it becomes law (which two previous drafts did not, of course, despite being considered by the Senate).</p>
<p>Of course, Nigeria is a paragon of peace and prosperity and utterly free of all violence, corruption and dishonesty; I&#8217;m sure that this Bill will only serve to make Nigeria an even better place to live.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/22/nigeria-moves-to-criminalize-same-sex-unions/#comment-93663</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyway, here&#039;s the Reuters report: http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE7AS0D520111129



The most problematic aspect appears to be this:-



&quot;&lt;em&gt;Any person who registers, operates or participates in gay clubs, societies and organisations or directly or indirectly makes public show of same-sex amorous relationship in Nigeria commits an offence and shall each be liable on conviction to a term of 10 years in prison.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;



This looks very much like an attack on freedom of expression, though it is not as &#039;all-embracing&#039; as the infamous Clause 13.  Assuming the Bill does pass, much will depend on how this aspect is interpreted - for example is someone who publically opines that gays should not be persecuted going to be put in the slammer.  (Bahati&#039;s line is that someone who repeatedly expresses such an opinion should be hanged.  Let us not forget that.)



It might also be argued, however, that this Bill could be somewhat &#039;tokenistic&#039;; Nigerians are in practice not able to set up &#039;gay clubs&#039; or get away with &#039;public displays of same-sex affection&#039; in a country that is probably more violently homophobic than is Uganda.



The report does suggest that the British will indeed reduce cash handouts to politicos in Abuja if the Bill does go through in its current form.  Others might do the same, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s the Reuters report: <a href="http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE7AS0D520111129" rel="nofollow ugc">http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE7AS0D520111129</a></p>
<p>The most problematic aspect appears to be this:-</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Any person who registers, operates or participates in gay clubs, societies and organisations or directly or indirectly makes public show of same-sex amorous relationship in Nigeria commits an offence and shall each be liable on conviction to a term of 10 years in prison.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>This looks very much like an attack on freedom of expression, though it is not as &#8216;all-embracing&#8217; as the infamous Clause 13.  Assuming the Bill does pass, much will depend on how this aspect is interpreted &#8211; for example is someone who publically opines that gays should not be persecuted going to be put in the slammer.  (Bahati&#8217;s line is that someone who repeatedly expresses such an opinion should be hanged.  Let us not forget that.)</p>
<p>It might also be argued, however, that this Bill could be somewhat &#8216;tokenistic&#8217;; Nigerians are in practice not able to set up &#8216;gay clubs&#8217; or get away with &#8216;public displays of same-sex affection&#8217; in a country that is probably more violently homophobic than is Uganda.</p>
<p>The report does suggest that the British will indeed reduce cash handouts to politicos in Abuja if the Bill does go through in its current form.  Others might do the same, of course.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nigeria&#039;s &#039;Anti-Gay Bill&#039; is - while dangerous in certain ways, the practical aspects of which I&#039;m sure will become apparent - a far cry from Bahati&#039;s proposed totalitarian &quot;Slaughter-Murder-Bloodbath&quot; programme.



It is interesting to note that the Nigerian Bill was considerably watered down from its 2006 original.



Sure - if MPs in Kampala &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; wish to pass the Bahati Bill, they have the power to do so, just as others have the power to respond resolutely and vigorously to such a barbaric outrage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigeria&#8217;s &#8216;Anti-Gay Bill&#8217; is &#8211; while dangerous in certain ways, the practical aspects of which I&#8217;m sure will become apparent &#8211; a far cry from Bahati&#8217;s proposed totalitarian &#8220;Slaughter-Murder-Bloodbath&#8221; programme.</p>
<p>It is interesting to note that the Nigerian Bill was considerably watered down from its 2006 original.</p>
<p>Sure &#8211; if MPs in Kampala <em>really</em> wish to pass the Bahati Bill, they have the power to do so, just as others have the power to respond resolutely and vigorously to such a barbaric outrage.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Banning polygamy is not the same thing as threatening to imprison and/or kill people for having consensual relations in private or for advocating basic human rights for gay people.



Canada is not planning to imprison or execute anyone for having more than one sexual partner, the &#039;ban&#039; on solemnizing polygamous marriages notwithstanding.  Claims of &#039;hypocrisy&#039; in this regard are therefore bogus and stupid - a feeble, dishonest attempt to excuse totalitarian and murderous legislation such as the Bahati Bill.



Noone is telling Uganda that it must introduce &#039;gay marriage&#039;; Uganda is simply being asked by &#039;donors&#039; to respect fundamental human rights.  I am pleased that the British have said that they will consider following the Irish and Dutch examples, and switch resources from &#039;general budget support&#039; to &#039;project support&#039;, if the fundamental human rights of ordinary Ugandans are threatened.  (My only qualms about the British action relates to the making of a &#039;grand announcement&#039;; quiet government-to-government dialogue might have been preferable, in my view.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning polygamy is not the same thing as threatening to imprison and/or kill people for having consensual relations in private or for advocating basic human rights for gay people.</p>
<p>Canada is not planning to imprison or execute anyone for having more than one sexual partner, the &#8216;ban&#8217; on solemnizing polygamous marriages notwithstanding.  Claims of &#8216;hypocrisy&#8217; in this regard are therefore bogus and stupid &#8211; a feeble, dishonest attempt to excuse totalitarian and murderous legislation such as the Bahati Bill.</p>
<p>Noone is telling Uganda that it must introduce &#8216;gay marriage&#8217;; Uganda is simply being asked by &#8216;donors&#8217; to respect fundamental human rights.  I am pleased that the British have said that they will consider following the Irish and Dutch examples, and switch resources from &#8216;general budget support&#8217; to &#8216;project support&#8217;, if the fundamental human rights of ordinary Ugandans are threatened.  (My only qualms about the British action relates to the making of a &#8216;grand announcement&#8217;; quiet government-to-government dialogue might have been preferable, in my view.)</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naaazi writes



This word &quot;International community&quot; is just a code word for the &quot;The Mafioso Committee of Western Nations.&quot;



You say &quot;mafioso&quot; like it&#039;s a bad thing.  Let me remind you that the great paragon of African anti-colonialism and anti-racism, Haille Selasse, kept slaves.  The only thing that stopped slavery in Ethiopia was the invasion of Mussolini&#039;s troops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naaazi writes</p>
<p>This word &#8220;International community&#8221; is just a code word for the &#8220;The Mafioso Committee of Western Nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>You say &#8220;mafioso&#8221; like it&#8217;s a bad thing.  Let me remind you that the great paragon of African anti-colonialism and anti-racism, Haille Selasse, kept slaves.  The only thing that stopped slavery in Ethiopia was the invasion of Mussolini&#8217;s troops.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, the &lt;strong&gt;Nigerian&lt;/strong&gt; Bill is not just about Marriage: the definition it gives of &#039;same-gender marriage&#039; takes in partnerships that have &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; been solemnized.  In that very important respect, it differs from Canada&#039;s position on polygamy.



That said, what Nigeria is proposing is, in many ways, very different from Bahati&#039;s &quot;Slaughter&quot; Bill, the ultimate and total defeat - by peaceful means - of which should remain a top priority for the international community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the <strong>Nigerian</strong> Bill is not just about Marriage: the definition it gives of &#8216;same-gender marriage&#8217; takes in partnerships that have <strong>not</strong> been solemnized.  In that very important respect, it differs from Canada&#8217;s position on polygamy.</p>
<p>That said, what Nigeria is proposing is, in many ways, very different from Bahati&#8217;s &#8220;Slaughter&#8221; Bill, the ultimate and total defeat &#8211; by peaceful means &#8211; of which should remain a top priority for the international community.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Canada is not planning to imprison or execute anyone for having more than one sexual partner, the &#039;ban&#039; on solemnizing polygamous marriages notwithstanding. Claims of &#039;hypocrisy&#039; in this regard are therefore bogus and stupid &#8211; a feeble, dishonest attempt to excuse totalitarian and murderous legislation such as the Bahati Bill.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Canada&#039;s anti-polygamy law is a criminal code. So don&#039;t pretend that it is benign harmless law because it is not. Hypocrisy is the name of the game for the western world. We in the third world are used to that. That is why we understand how it is possible for US government to support and arm the Saudi and Bahraini dictators to shoot and kill protester and at the same time denounce the Syrian and :ibyan dictatorship.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Useful clarification on the UK aid policy: http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D&lt;/blockquote&gt;



What you pass off as a &quot;clarification&quot; is a radical climb-down by the UK government following the universal uproar in Africa to Cameron&#039;s imperialist pro-gay blackmail. We are no fools. We know that the &quot;clarification&quot; is just a semantic word used by UK government save face. We don&#039;t care. I am proud that Africa spoke with one voice on this matter. UK sees donor aid as a means of influencing politics in Africa and therefore will never cease giving useless aid packages even if Her Majesty&#039;s government is on the brink of bankruptcy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Canada is not planning to imprison or execute anyone for having more than one sexual partner, the &#8216;ban&#8217; on solemnizing polygamous marriages notwithstanding. Claims of &#8216;hypocrisy&#8217; in this regard are therefore bogus and stupid &#8211; a feeble, dishonest attempt to excuse totalitarian and murderous legislation such as the Bahati Bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>Canada&#8217;s anti-polygamy law is a criminal code. So don&#8217;t pretend that it is benign harmless law because it is not. Hypocrisy is the name of the game for the western world. We in the third world are used to that. That is why we understand how it is possible for US government to support and arm the Saudi and Bahraini dictators to shoot and kill protester and at the same time denounce the Syrian and :ibyan dictatorship.</p>
<blockquote><p>Useful clarification on the UK aid policy: <a href="http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D</a></p></blockquote>
<p>What you pass off as a &#8220;clarification&#8221; is a radical climb-down by the UK government following the universal uproar in Africa to Cameron&#8217;s imperialist pro-gay blackmail. We are no fools. We know that the &#8220;clarification&#8221; is just a semantic word used by UK government save face. We don&#8217;t care. I am proud that Africa spoke with one voice on this matter. UK sees donor aid as a means of influencing politics in Africa and therefore will never cease giving useless aid packages even if Her Majesty&#8217;s government is on the brink of bankruptcy.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Useful clarification on the UK aid policy: http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful clarification on the UK aid policy: <a href="http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?storyid=%7B84191c4c-05aa-4eb9-936e-4e66fb79deee%7D</a></p>
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