Comments on: Alan Osmond channels NARTH https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/#comment-94917 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:25 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10532#comment-94917 In reply to David Roberts.

Jeremy may indeed be acting so I am not sure how to take his comments here. However, if he is not, he surely needs better gay friends. I am a straight guy in a small town and most of the gay people I know are great folks with no addictions and are honest and trustworthy people. Sure, there are some who aren’t, but so are some of the straight folk I know.
If this is not an actor playing a reparative therapy client, then it is someone who has bad experiences and is stereotyping an entire group based on his singular experience. I am all for someone finding congruence with their beliefs but there is no need to stereotype in order to do it.
Knights of Columbus? Are you Catholic?

]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/#comment-94788 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:05:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10532#comment-94788 Jeremy,
there’s at least one here who’s not angered at all – me. My personal experiences are somewhat similar.
I felt attracted to guys who had what I lacked – masculinity (not that there were much of those guys in the gay milieu then, and most of them were married). And when I got more close to those guys I found out that my “love” was hampered by feelings of distance, envy and discontent – masculinity would not flow from them to me in a magical way. So I suppose that homosexual contact was, for me, an attempt to solve a problem which could not be solved that way.
I wish you a nice time and lots of fun investigating the realm of OSA. Remember that OSA is probably learned, but most boys learn it as their mother tongue and you have to learn it as a second tongue – a process more slow, more troublesome and much more conscious.

]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/#comment-94786 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:05:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10532#comment-94786 Warren,
“Dr. Kaye recently told me that the study was wrong and discredited. ”
That’s not what you wrote in the article linked by you.
Kaye has obviously retracted from his opinions. But he makes only two arguments, and both are rather weak.
First, that the authors of the study looked for findings which corroborated their theory. That may or may not be a fault (it’ s normal in an early stage of theoretical development, but it’s dangerous on a higher level).
Second (as far as I see), that he couldn’t repeat the optimistic “healing rate” of the study in his own therapeutical work.
Neither of those arguments is completely worthless, but they don’t amount to a refutation of the study.

]]> By: Emily K https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/#comment-94785 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:05:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10532#comment-94785 Jeremy, I’m hearing from you a tale told by so many ex-gays today. They claim that they only want to live “in accordance with their faith” and are prepared to be celibate, it’s not about changing to straight, just about being holy, etc. etc… But then come out and say that all things bad they used to do are connected to their “same sex attraction.” That everything bad about their former self came about simply because they were gay, and getting rid of The Gay is what will solve those problems.
This is just absurd. Being “same sex attracted” is exactly just that. Being attracted to the same sex. It is a trait as indifferent to your well-being as being left-handed or red-haired.

]]> By: Jeremy Schwab https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/09/alan-osmond-channels-narth/#comment-94789 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:05:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10532#comment-94789 Thanks Patrocles! 🙂

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