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	Comments on: NARTH: We&#039;re not anti-gay, we just have anti-gay speakers at our conference	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, she may be sincere in her belief ... and this is perhaps the really frightening thing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, she may be sincere in her belief &#8230; and this is perhaps the really frightening thing!</p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn David]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Crap in, crap out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap in, crap out.</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StraightGrandmother]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The woman on camera who spoke on behlf of NARTH comes across on camera as very sincere. If I didn&#039;t know better, I would believe her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman on camera who spoke on behlf of NARTH comes across on camera as very sincere. If I didn&#8217;t know better, I would believe her.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like they have taken the ship to ... &lt;em&gt;ludicrous speed&lt;/em&gt;
We&#039;re not anti-gay .. we just ...errr   .. umm help people not to be gay .. and to encourage you not to be gay we have speakers that believe you should go to jail for being gay.
LOL
Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like they have taken the ship to &#8230; <em>ludicrous speed</em><br />
We&#8217;re not anti-gay .. we just &#8230;errr   .. umm help people not to be gay .. and to encourage you not to be gay we have speakers that believe you should go to jail for being gay.<br />
LOL<br />
Dave</p>
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		By: David Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Roberts]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Essentially, the best reading of their position as stated would be:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;If you are happy with your mental illness, that&#039;s fine, but if you recognize, as we do, how awful and evil it is, we we are here to help cure you.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;
It&#039;s really hard for them to spin a message that smells that bad.  I would have more respect for them if they were blunt about it like they used to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essentially, the best reading of their position as stated would be:<br />
<em>&#8220;If you are happy with your mental illness, that&#8217;s fine, but if you recognize, as we do, how awful and evil it is, we we are here to help cure you.&#8221;<br />
</em><br />
It&#8217;s really hard for them to spin a message that smells that bad.  I would have more respect for them if they were blunt about it like they used to be.</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It&#039;s not homophobic, anti-gay, nothing like that. It&#039;s simply a research organization trying to make known good information...&quot; ~ Julie Hamilton&lt;/blockquote&gt;The choice of speakers proves the first assertion is false -- and junk &quot;science&quot; is hardly &quot;good information&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not homophobic, anti-gay, nothing like that. It&#8217;s simply a research organization trying to make known good information&#8230;&#8221; ~ Julie Hamilton</p></blockquote>
<p>The choice of speakers proves the first assertion is false &#8212; and junk &#8220;science&#8221; is hardly &#8220;good information&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 20:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/05/narth-were-not-anti-gay-we-just-have-anti-gay-speakers-at-our-conference/#comment-73590&quot;&gt;sam&lt;/a&gt;.

sam - I know you want NARTH not to support criminalization but in fact they have no official position for or against. To discern the attitudes of leaders of a group, then you look to their choices on other matters such as who they invite to speak at their events. NARTH chooses Slater to speak who, despite your strange interpretation of her, does support African countries who maintain harsh laws against homosexuality.
Association with Mormons doesn&#039;t make you a Mormon, but it does mean you support at least some of their objectives. Same with NARTH and Slater. NARTH is not Slater but they must as a leadership group feel good about what she is doing. Why else invite a non-scientist to speak at a so-called scientific meeting?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/05/narth-were-not-anti-gay-we-just-have-anti-gay-speakers-at-our-conference/#comment-73590">sam</a>.</p>
<p>sam &#8211; I know you want NARTH not to support criminalization but in fact they have no official position for or against. To discern the attitudes of leaders of a group, then you look to their choices on other matters such as who they invite to speak at their events. NARTH chooses Slater to speak who, despite your strange interpretation of her, does support African countries who maintain harsh laws against homosexuality.<br />
Association with Mormons doesn&#8217;t make you a Mormon, but it does mean you support at least some of their objectives. Same with NARTH and Slater. NARTH is not Slater but they must as a leadership group feel good about what she is doing. Why else invite a non-scientist to speak at a so-called scientific meeting?</p>
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		By: Michael Bussee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bussee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;?&quot;Earlier this year, Slater claimed that she stopped using Martin Ssempa as a liaison in Africa after she learned about Ssempa&#039;s support for the Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Slater correctly understands that the bill requires the death penalty for HIV positive gays and she opposes that.
However,she refused to condemn prison terms for gays in Uganda or any other country. In essence, her position is the same as Scott Lively&#039;s view &#8211; oppose the death penalty but support the stance of African nations who maintain harsh prison terms for GLBT people. The Anti-Homosexuality Bill is once again before Uganda&#039;s Parliament and may be considered on the floor within the next month.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Exodus remains a strong ally of NARTH -- even though Exodus says they oppose the crimininalization of homosexuality.  It&#039;s way past time for Exodus to dump NARTH and say so clearly and openly.  Silence implies agreement.
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmasteradrian.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2F07%2Fnarth-features-gay-imprisonment-advocate%2F&#038;h=_AQFvJ6PqAQGIMAypbHb01qzmJVdXE6CgJa8IUnwKa6s8sQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>?&#8221;Earlier this year, Slater claimed that she stopped using Martin Ssempa as a liaison in Africa after she learned about Ssempa&#8217;s support for the Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Slater correctly understands that the bill requires the death penalty for HIV positive gays and she opposes that.<br />
However,she refused to condemn prison terms for gays in Uganda or any other country. In essence, her position is the same as Scott Lively&#8217;s view &#8211; oppose the death penalty but support the stance of African nations who maintain harsh prison terms for GLBT people. The Anti-Homosexuality Bill is once again before Uganda&#8217;s Parliament and may be considered on the floor within the next month.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Exodus remains a strong ally of NARTH &#8212; even though Exodus says they oppose the crimininalization of homosexuality.  It&#8217;s way past time for Exodus to dump NARTH and say so clearly and openly.  Silence implies agreement.<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmasteradrian.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2F07%2Fnarth-features-gay-imprisonment-advocate%2F&#038;h=_AQFvJ6PqAQGIMAypbHb01qzmJVdXE6CgJa8IUnwKa6s8sQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmasteradrian.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2F07%2Fnarth-features-gay-imprisonment-advocate%2F&#038;h=_AQFvJ6PqAQGIMAypbHb01qzmJVdXE6CgJa8IUnwKa6s8sQ</a></p>
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		By: Throbert McGee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Throbert McGee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;(Can you imagine Nicolosi telling social conservatives that military service by a man increases the odds that his sons will be gay?)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, come to think of it, I &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; imagine Nicolosi saying this -- in order to boost sales of his &quot;Gay-Proofing Your Kids&quot; books among military families, and especially religious ones...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(Can you imagine Nicolosi telling social conservatives that military service by a man increases the odds that his sons will be gay?)</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, come to think of it, I <b>can</b> imagine Nicolosi saying this &#8212; in order to boost sales of his &#8220;Gay-Proofing Your Kids&#8221; books among military families, and especially religious ones&#8230;</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[My comment above was addressed to one Kevin, whose own comment seems now to have disappeared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment above was addressed to one Kevin, whose own comment seems now to have disappeared.</p>
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