Comments on: NARTH features leader of international efforts to keep homosexuality illegal https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Wed, 30 May 2018 21:58:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/#comment-94701 Wed, 30 May 2018 21:58:53 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10490#comment-94701 In reply to Patrocles.

Pat – When I describe Slater’s position, I am describing her position as she has described it. I am examining the claims of an organization that purports to be a scientific organization. Inviting an activist to speak at a scientific conference seems to imply support for the activist’s activism. Otherwise what does she add?
Pat – If you doubt my factual correctness then prove me wrong. Your style of assuming you know things without reading them is more of an indicator of extra-scientific bias than anything I have written here.
I am an advocate for decriminalization for sure. However, I doubt many LGB activists would view me as an activist.

]]> By: Jim Guinnessey https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/#comment-83535 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:34:54 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10490#comment-83535 It is amazing to me that in a world ready to collapse from economic deception and greed by the so-called one or two percent of the wizards who control wealth; in a world where various religions are at war; where savage tribalism and racism still endure with vehemence; that an idiotic screwball group like NARTH with yahoo minds like Susan Slater,Linda Harvey and Scott (Deadly) Lively still has its panties in a knot over homosexuality and pondering the best methods to eradicate it by any means (i.e.,execution, life sentences, etc.) still has the gall (and the bucks!) to host these foolish, hateful and bigoted meetings which feature the various evangelical witchdoctors and crackpots spewing forth their twisted and arcane nonsense (and getting paid for it!)
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]]> By: Patrocles https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/#comment-82703 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:29:51 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10490#comment-82703 Warren,
you did wonderful work, when you were the one and only person who impartially checked the claims of contrarian schools and scholars in sexual psychology. That’s why I began to read your site.
Of course, if you want to turn yourself into an LGBT activist, that’s your personal matter.
But what we really need in our time are people who,too, impartially check the moral and juridical claims of contrarian protagonists in sexual politics (its moral philosophy and its standing in international law). Including the LGBT lobby! And if you don’t do that you unconsciously fall prey to the cheap formulas of lobbyism.
For example; you say that Slater thinks”that GLB people are not entitled to human rights because sexual orientation is not a fixed trait”. First, I doubt your factual correctness: does Slater in fact promote to treat GLB people like animals? Then, do you try here to describe Slater’s position in itself or the way Slater’s position differs from yours? Are you promoting the idea that non-discrimination is a “human right” or that (at least) people must not be discriminated against on base of “fixed traits”? And would that mean that you have an extra-scientific bias: Homosexuality ought to be seen (and remain!) a “fixed trait” in order to protect the interests of GLB people?

]]> By: sam https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/#comment-54080 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:54:05 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10490#comment-54080 Warren,
I respect what you do, but I think you are reading too much into what Sharon Slater is saying. I read your article on Crosswalk material about her where you have had an interview with her, and I came to conclusion that she is being neutral on what goes on in Africa with anti-homosexuality bills. To be fair, her positions are kinda obscure. Even if Ms. Slater is an advocate of puttting people in jail just for being gay, that does not necessarily make NARTH liable. For example, I was involved in some communiy service to the poor with the members of LDS church, but that involvement didn’t make a Mormon, at all, didn’t influence me to believe in plurality of gods. Do you see what I mean?

]]> By: sam https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/#comment-79448 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:54:05 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/?p=10490#comment-79448 Warren,
I respect what you do, but I think you are reading too much into what Sharon Slater is saying. I read your article on Crosswalk material about her where you have had an interview with her, and I came to conclusion that she is being neutral on what goes on in Africa with anti-homosexuality bills. To be fair, her positions are kinda obscure. Even if Ms. Slater is an advocate of puttting people in jail just for being gay, that does not necessarily make NARTH liable. For example, I was involved in some communiy service to the poor with the members of LDS church, but that involvement didn’t make a Mormon, at all, didn’t influence me to believe in plurality of gods. Do you see what I mean?

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