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	Comments on: What is violence? Scott Lively and the Uganda anti-gay bill	</title>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patrocles
My point on Lively&#039;s behaviour is this: even when he was attempting to &#039;excuse&#039; himself over his UG trip, he admitted that he knew perfectly well that very harsh would likely be proposed.  But it appears that, instead of focusing on tempering the &#039;enthusiasm for harshness&#039; he now effectively blames the Ugandans at the March 2009 conference for (sorry about the awkward syntax), he said things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA - hardly the kind of choice of words one usually associates with someone seeking to ameliorate harshness and bigotry.
Do you see the point?
And then there were the boasts about the &#039;nuclear bomb&#039; against the &#039;gay agenda&#039; ...
I suspect it&#039;s only since other evangelicals have condemned the Bahati Bill that Lively has started to say that he really opposes it.
(Of course there are some gay people with psychopathic tendencies, just as there are some straight people with similar tendencies ... and don&#039;t forget that many men who rape other men identify as &#039;straight&#039; and have consensual relations with women - a reminder perhaps that rape has little or nothing to do with &#039;sexual identity&#039;, unless perhaps one is looking at it from the point of view of who is the victim?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrocles<br />
My point on Lively&#8217;s behaviour is this: even when he was attempting to &#8216;excuse&#8217; himself over his UG trip, he admitted that he knew perfectly well that very harsh would likely be proposed.  But it appears that, instead of focusing on tempering the &#8216;enthusiasm for harshness&#8217; he now effectively blames the Ugandans at the March 2009 conference for (sorry about the awkward syntax), he said things like this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA</a> &#8211; hardly the kind of choice of words one usually associates with someone seeking to ameliorate harshness and bigotry.<br />
Do you see the point?<br />
And then there were the boasts about the &#8216;nuclear bomb&#8217; against the &#8216;gay agenda&#8217; &#8230;<br />
I suspect it&#8217;s only since other evangelicals have condemned the Bahati Bill that Lively has started to say that he really opposes it.<br />
(Of course there are some gay people with psychopathic tendencies, just as there are some straight people with similar tendencies &#8230; and don&#8217;t forget that many men who rape other men identify as &#8216;straight&#8217; and have consensual relations with women &#8211; a reminder perhaps that rape has little or nothing to do with &#8216;sexual identity&#8217;, unless perhaps one is looking at it from the point of view of who is the victim?)</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/13/what-is-violence-scott-lively-and-the-uganda-anti-gay-bill/#comment-53500</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patrocles
My point on Lively&#039;s behaviour is this: even when he was attempting to &#039;excuse&#039; himself over his UG trip, he admitted that he knew perfectly well that very harsh would likely be proposed.  But it appears that, instead of focusing on tempering the &#039;enthusiasm for harshness&#039; he now effectively blames the Ugandans at the March 2009 conference for (sorry about the awkward syntax), he said things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA - hardly the kind of choice of words one usually associates with someone seeking to ameliorate harshness and bigotry.
Do you see the point?
And then there were the boasts about the &#039;nuclear bomb&#039; against the &#039;gay agenda&#039; ...
I suspect it&#039;s only since other evangelicals have condemned the Bahati Bill that Lively has started to say that he really opposes it.
(Of course there are some gay people with psychopathic tendencies, just as there are some straight people with similar tendencies ... and don&#039;t forget that many men who rape other men identify as &#039;straight&#039; and have consensual relations with women - a reminder perhaps that rape has little or nothing to do with &#039;sexual identity&#039;, unless perhaps one is looking at it from the point of view of who is the victim?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrocles<br />
My point on Lively&#8217;s behaviour is this: even when he was attempting to &#8216;excuse&#8217; himself over his UG trip, he admitted that he knew perfectly well that very harsh would likely be proposed.  But it appears that, instead of focusing on tempering the &#8216;enthusiasm for harshness&#8217; he now effectively blames the Ugandans at the March 2009 conference for (sorry about the awkward syntax), he said things like this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHmrOGP2NA</a> &#8211; hardly the kind of choice of words one usually associates with someone seeking to ameliorate harshness and bigotry.<br />
Do you see the point?<br />
And then there were the boasts about the &#8216;nuclear bomb&#8217; against the &#8216;gay agenda&#8217; &#8230;<br />
I suspect it&#8217;s only since other evangelicals have condemned the Bahati Bill that Lively has started to say that he really opposes it.<br />
(Of course there are some gay people with psychopathic tendencies, just as there are some straight people with similar tendencies &#8230; and don&#8217;t forget that many men who rape other men identify as &#8216;straight&#8217; and have consensual relations with women &#8211; a reminder perhaps that rape has little or nothing to do with &#8216;sexual identity&#8217;, unless perhaps one is looking at it from the point of view of who is the victim?)</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay I didn&#039;t comment the first time but now that you are repeating the grammatical error I will speak up Patrocles in order to be of help. The word you are looking for is alluded not allured.
Prolly this is Pot/Kettle/Black as when I am on one computer I have it is missing keypads on a couple letters on the keyboard, and also I have a small handicap with my right hand which causes weird typing errors, so I know for a fact I am guilty as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I didn&#8217;t comment the first time but now that you are repeating the grammatical error I will speak up Patrocles in order to be of help. The word you are looking for is alluded not allured.<br />
Prolly this is Pot/Kettle/Black as when I am on one computer I have it is missing keypads on a couple letters on the keyboard, and also I have a small handicap with my right hand which causes weird typing errors, so I know for a fact I am guilty as well.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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(It&#8217;s been another long day!)</p>
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