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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Rwanda which is turning out to be more accepting of GLB people than elsewhere in the region.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You clearly know nothing about Rwanda. Yes, there is no explicit law against gayism in our sister country, but I can assure you that there are other  &quot;anti-immorality&quot; laws on Rwandan stature books that can be used to combat  sexual depravity if the pernicious brand of  gay sex militancy witnessed in Uganda were to rear its ugly head in Kigali.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rwanda which is turning out to be more accepting of GLB people than elsewhere in the region.</p></blockquote>
<p>You clearly know nothing about Rwanda. Yes, there is no explicit law against gayism in our sister country, but I can assure you that there are other  &#8220;anti-immorality&#8221; laws on Rwandan stature books that can be used to combat  sexual depravity if the pernicious brand of  gay sex militancy witnessed in Uganda were to rear its ugly head in Kigali.</p>
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		By: paul canning		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding Maazi&#039;s ridiculous statement on Rwanda, I refer you to &lt;a href=&quot;http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-dawn-how-africa-is-changing-for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this statement&lt;/a&gt; by Rwanda&#039;s UN delegate Olivier Nduhungirehe on why Rwanda was voting FOR &lt;a href=&quot;http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2010/12/big-victory-for-usa-in-fresh-united.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;December&#039;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays&lt;/a&gt;. He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.
    &quot;Whether or not the concept is defined or not, whether or not we support the claims of people with a different sexual orientation, whether or not we approve of their sexual practices &#8211; we must deal with the urgency of these matters and recognize that these people continue to be the target of murder in many of our societies, and they are more at risk than many of the other groups listed. This is unfortunately true, and recognizing this is not a call to give them special rights; it&#039;s just recognition of a crime, that their fundamental rights, their right to life should not be refused. But to refuse to recognize this reality for legal or ideological or cultural reasons will have the consequence of continuing to hide our heads in the sand and to fail to alert states to these situations that break families.&quot;
    &quot;Believe me, sir, that a human group doesn&#039;t need to be legally defined to be the victim of execution or massacre, since those who target their members have previously defined them. Rwanda has experienced this sixteen years ago indeed, and for this reason our delegation will vote for the amendment, and calls on other delegations to do likewise.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Maazi&#8217;s ridiculous statement on Rwanda, I refer you to <a href="http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-dawn-how-africa-is-changing-for.html" rel="nofollow">this statement</a> by Rwanda&#8217;s UN delegate Olivier Nduhungirehe on why Rwanda was voting FOR <a href="http://madikazemi.blogspot.com/2010/12/big-victory-for-usa-in-fresh-united.html" rel="nofollow">December&#8217;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays</a>. He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.<br />
    &#8220;Whether or not the concept is defined or not, whether or not we support the claims of people with a different sexual orientation, whether or not we approve of their sexual practices &#8211; we must deal with the urgency of these matters and recognize that these people continue to be the target of murder in many of our societies, and they are more at risk than many of the other groups listed. This is unfortunately true, and recognizing this is not a call to give them special rights; it&#8217;s just recognition of a crime, that their fundamental rights, their right to life should not be refused. But to refuse to recognize this reality for legal or ideological or cultural reasons will have the consequence of continuing to hide our heads in the sand and to fail to alert states to these situations that break families.&#8221;<br />
    &#8220;Believe me, sir, that a human group doesn&#8217;t need to be legally defined to be the victim of execution or massacre, since those who target their members have previously defined them. Rwanda has experienced this sixteen years ago indeed, and for this reason our delegation will vote for the amendment, and calls on other delegations to do likewise.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Regarding Maazi&#039;s ridiculous statement on Rwanda, I refer you to this statement by Rwanda&#039;s UN delegate Olivier Nduhungirehe on why Rwanda was voting FOR December&#039;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays. He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Paul Canning-----I am perfectly aware of what Rwanda&#039;s UN delegate said.  You need not reproduce what the Rwandan delegate said. I have access to the transcript of comments made by the African group  at the UN and contrarian comments made by a few individual African nations who succumbed to US government blackmail.
To test whether I am being ridiculous, please fly  to Kigali and kiss a fellow man publicly and see whether the Policemen on the streets of the Rwandan capital would remain calm on sighting you and your &quot;lover-boy&quot; and not charge you under their  currently existing anti-immorality laws. Until you try what I have said, there is no point replying to my comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Regarding Maazi&#8217;s ridiculous statement on Rwanda, I refer you to this statement by Rwanda&#8217;s UN delegate Olivier Nduhungirehe on why Rwanda was voting FOR December&#8217;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays. He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul Canning&#8212;&#8211;I am perfectly aware of what Rwanda&#8217;s UN delegate said.  You need not reproduce what the Rwandan delegate said. I have access to the transcript of comments made by the African group  at the UN and contrarian comments made by a few individual African nations who succumbed to US government blackmail.<br />
To test whether I am being ridiculous, please fly  to Kigali and kiss a fellow man publicly and see whether the Policemen on the streets of the Rwandan capital would remain calm on sighting you and your &#8220;lover-boy&#8221; and not charge you under their  currently existing anti-immorality laws. Until you try what I have said, there is no point replying to my comment.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before my depature, let me just address a couple of things you claimed....
&lt;blockquote&gt;December&#039;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The African Group agreed in principle that no one deserves to be killed for committing the abominable crime of gayism, however the African Group cannot agree to the inclusion of the  word &quot;sexual orientation&quot;. We know how clever Europeans and Americans are. If we allow internationally unrecognized terms such as &quot;sexual minorities&quot; and &quot;sexual orientation&quot; under the guise of fighting extra-judicial murder then it will be spurn around and used by the foreign gay propagandists and their local african puppets to pressure African nations to legalize an abominable sex crime.
&lt;blockquote&gt;He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Rwandan UN delegate was lying. Why did Rwanda join most African nations in 2008 to vote against the doomed French and Dutch-sponsored UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity? Why did Rwanda support the original Benin Republic Initiative to remove the silly misnomer &quot;sexual orientation&quot; from the UN Declaration on Extra-Judicial Killings? What magic occurred to make the UN delegates of Rwanda and South Africa change their minds and double-cross their fellow africans and support US government initiative to restore the &quot;sexual orientation&quot; misnomer? Please don&#039;t make me laugh.  There was serious pro-gay lobbying  (verging on playground bullying) from the gayism-obssessed Obama administration. I know for a fact that attempts were made to force African nations and other 3rd world nations to either support or abstain from voting on the US initiative to restore that misnormer &quot;sexual orientation&quot;. Uganda successfully resisted the bullying tactics of the US government and so most African nations who voted against the US initiative.
Like I said previously, kindly fly to Kigali City with &lt;b&gt; your male lover&lt;/b&gt;. When you get there, &lt;b&gt;kiss publicly in full view of a Rwandan Policeman&lt;/b&gt; to test whether &lt;b&gt; the currently existing anti-immorality laws&lt;/b&gt; are enforceable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before my depature, let me just address a couple of things you claimed&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>December&#8217;s UN resolution against extra-judicial killings of gays.</p></blockquote>
<p>The African Group agreed in principle that no one deserves to be killed for committing the abominable crime of gayism, however the African Group cannot agree to the inclusion of the  word &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221;. We know how clever Europeans and Americans are. If we allow internationally unrecognized terms such as &#8220;sexual minorities&#8221; and &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; under the guise of fighting extra-judicial murder then it will be spurn around and used by the foreign gay propagandists and their local african puppets to pressure African nations to legalize an abominable sex crime.</p>
<blockquote><p>He said it was not because of lobbying or threats but because of the lessons learned from the genocide that country had suffered.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Rwandan UN delegate was lying. Why did Rwanda join most African nations in 2008 to vote against the doomed French and Dutch-sponsored UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity? Why did Rwanda support the original Benin Republic Initiative to remove the silly misnomer &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; from the UN Declaration on Extra-Judicial Killings? What magic occurred to make the UN delegates of Rwanda and South Africa change their minds and double-cross their fellow africans and support US government initiative to restore the &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; misnomer? Please don&#8217;t make me laugh.  There was serious pro-gay lobbying  (verging on playground bullying) from the gayism-obssessed Obama administration. I know for a fact that attempts were made to force African nations and other 3rd world nations to either support or abstain from voting on the US initiative to restore that misnormer &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221;. Uganda successfully resisted the bullying tactics of the US government and so most African nations who voted against the US initiative.<br />
Like I said previously, kindly fly to Kigali City with <b> your male lover</b>. When you get there, <b>kiss publicly in full view of a Rwandan Policeman</b> to test whether <b> the currently existing anti-immorality laws</b> are enforceable.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ &#039;Maazi NCO&#039; - I know that the Ugandan Premier is, on paper, relatively powerless ... but come on, old fruit, let&#039;s be realistic about Amama Mbabazi&#039;s place in the scheme of things (and he would probably still in practice be pretty powerful even if he were not the SG ... not least because of his previous ministerial position).  As for Rwanda: well, Kigali decided &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; to proceed with arbitrary repressive measures against LGB persons, so there is no need for the same level of human rights activity there regarding this matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217; &#8211; I know that the Ugandan Premier is, on paper, relatively powerless &#8230; but come on, old fruit, let&#8217;s be realistic about Amama Mbabazi&#8217;s place in the scheme of things (and he would probably still in practice be pretty powerful even if he were not the SG &#8230; not least because of his previous ministerial position).  As for Rwanda: well, Kigali decided <strong>not</strong> to proceed with arbitrary repressive measures against LGB persons, so there is no need for the same level of human rights activity there regarding this matter.</p>
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