Comments on: Suicide victim endured anti-gay bullying

By: Eddy

Eddy — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:46:12 +0000

LOL. My comments do not deny the reality of anti-gay bullying; they are an invitation to consider that there might be an even bigger picture where kids, even kids who would one day identify as gay, are bullied–just as hurtfully–deserving just as much concern and compassion. The age at which this victim was already in psychological care with suicidal thoughts, if those thoughts were inspired by bullying, would indicate, if the boy had normal resilience, that he had experienced MAJOR bullying at an age where he and his bullies were likely pre-puberty. Forgive me that I thought that aspect merited some thoughtful examination. You may now return to your ‘one note’ discussion.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:10:44 +0000

Patrocles……. first, I think that most little boys are attracted to masculinity but only a part of them has that attraction “sexualized” later on. So, memories of early SSA may be erroneous.

You may wish to believe it but I have talked with many a gay man who has said they understood something was different about themselves as early as age 5 only to understand that once puberty kicked in.
I don’t think you remember such a thing wrongly in your life because you easily recognize that it sets you apart from the greater part of males.

At fourth, I’m definitely a conservative. In a small way, I want to to conservate traditional masculinity as one of the most charming and attractive traits in humanity. But mostly, I want to conservate freedom of speech – once the glory of the United States, thereafter apparently the glory of the “western world”, then ridiculed and shunned by the “cultural marxists”, until most people have forgotten why it was intitutionalized at all. And I’m definitely against any anti-bullying campaigning which hasn’t a clear and robust preconception about the uses and the importance of freedom of speech.

So are you saying that a child’s right to free speech should preclude learning a lesson about socially acceptable forms of interaction?

By: Emily K

Emily K — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:10:44 +0000

It doesn’t matter if this boy was gay or not. He was bullied for being PERCEIVED as gay. This should tell Christian conservatives that there is an absolute NEED for anti-bullying measures.
Even the straight kids are victims here.
How is this not getting an unequivocal response of support? Why is it bullying for being gay is the only thing where people get wishy-washy? This affects all kids, gay and straight.
There was an incident a couple of years ago when two (STRAIGHT) brothers were expressing physical affection to each other, as was typical in their home country (I forget where, it was in South America) and they were brutally assaulted because the attacker thought they were a gay couple. One died from his injuries.
Hatred for gays affects anyone of any sexual orientation.
Besides, I’d rather not live in a world where “masculinity” is equated with coldness.

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:08:44 +0000

Eddy,

when he was 10 or 11. Did you realize that you were ‘erotically turned on’ by people of your own gender at that age?

By 11, yes!
It strikes me as incredibly sad and tragic that we can’t seem to come together on this issue. Kids who are gay are killing themselves due to bullying they receive because of their orientation, and some who are not gay but are suffering bullying because they are perceived as gay and are killing themselves as a result – yet the conservative Christians want to forbid any speech that they don’t like regarding gay bullying. They have much for which to answer!

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:08:44 +0000

Patrocles –

first, I think that most little boys are attracted to masculinity but only a part of them has that attraction “sexualized” later on. So, memories of early SSA may be erroneous.

What does this mean in your world?