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	Comments on: Radio Station in Texas cancels David Barton&#039;s Wallbuilders Live During Show	</title>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/09/14/radio-station-in-texas-cancels-david-bartons-wallbuilders-live-during-show/#comment-95054&quot;&gt;kathleen mckeithen&lt;/a&gt;.

kathleen - I appreciate your desire for accuracy but I am a little more careful with the word cult than you and ask that you not refer to Catholicism as a cult. Catholics believe the same things about the essence of Christ (who He was and is, the relation to the Father and Holy Spirit), whereas the LDS church has a different view of the origins and essence of Christ. I don&#039;t even like to refer to LDS as a cult because coercion and several other mind control efforts are needed to be considered a cult - at least in the way I understand the term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/09/14/radio-station-in-texas-cancels-david-bartons-wallbuilders-live-during-show/#comment-95054">kathleen mckeithen</a>.</p>
<p>kathleen &#8211; I appreciate your desire for accuracy but I am a little more careful with the word cult than you and ask that you not refer to Catholicism as a cult. Catholics believe the same things about the essence of Christ (who He was and is, the relation to the Father and Holy Spirit), whereas the LDS church has a different view of the origins and essence of Christ. I don&#8217;t even like to refer to LDS as a cult because coercion and several other mind control efforts are needed to be considered a cult &#8211; at least in the way I understand the term.</p>
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		By: God Help East Texas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[God Help East Texas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Conservatives certainly didn&#039;t question Beck&#039;s religion much back when he was opposing Obama and the health care bill...or when he pushed conservative candidates for the November 2010 elections.
If you are going to have a debate...or a guest who presents opposing viewpoints, then you don&#039;t throw them off of the show because of these views.
Use your God-given debate skills and - point by point - expose the flaws in their arguments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives certainly didn&#8217;t question Beck&#8217;s religion much back when he was opposing Obama and the health care bill&#8230;or when he pushed conservative candidates for the November 2010 elections.<br />
If you are going to have a debate&#8230;or a guest who presents opposing viewpoints, then you don&#8217;t throw them off of the show because of these views.<br />
Use your God-given debate skills and &#8211; point by point &#8211; expose the flaws in their arguments.</p>
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		By: Bernie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*sigh*  It couldn&#039;t have happened to a nicer charlatan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*  It couldn&#8217;t have happened to a nicer charlatan.</p>
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		By: Darren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[THAT&#039;S why they pull him?  NOT because he is a sham &quot;historian&quot;, and couldn&#039;t string together a truthful historical statement if his life depended on it, but because he didn&#039;t differentiate Christianity and Mormonism??  SUDDENLY the station is concerned with his (lack of) nuance?  It would be laudable if it wasn&#039;t so ridiculous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT&#8217;S why they pull him?  NOT because he is a sham &#8220;historian&#8221;, and couldn&#8217;t string together a truthful historical statement if his life depended on it, but because he didn&#8217;t differentiate Christianity and Mormonism??  SUDDENLY the station is concerned with his (lack of) nuance?  It would be laudable if it wasn&#8217;t so ridiculous.</p>
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		By: Ephesians 5:11 Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ephesians 5:11 Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Barton is revealing what we have known all along, he isn&#039;t a Christian.
Jesus, speaking of ravening wolves, said in Matthew 7:16 - &quot;Ye shall know them by their fruits...&quot;
The fruit of truth mentioned in Ephesians 5:9 - &quot;For the FRUIT of the Spirit IS IN ALL goodness and righteousness and TRUTH&quot;
When David Barton can get up in front of church audiences and purposely manipulate and then give excuses that are totally illogical, he wreaks of
JESUIT SOPHISTRY.
I would not at all be surprised if Barton is Jesuit trained.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Barton is revealing what we have known all along, he isn&#8217;t a Christian.<br />
Jesus, speaking of ravening wolves, said in Matthew 7:16 &#8211; &#8220;Ye shall know them by their fruits&#8230;&#8221;<br />
The fruit of truth mentioned in Ephesians 5:9 &#8211; &#8220;For the FRUIT of the Spirit IS IN ALL goodness and righteousness and TRUTH&#8221;<br />
When David Barton can get up in front of church audiences and purposely manipulate and then give excuses that are totally illogical, he wreaks of<br />
JESUIT SOPHISTRY.<br />
I would not at all be surprised if Barton is Jesuit trained.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blather utter nonsense and adopt racist ideology: not a problem.  Dare to so suggest that a Mormon might be a Christian: fire him, ban him, get him off the air.
It&#039;s amusing, but sad.
David Barton has spent years bringing disgrace and shame to the name of Christianity.  But few saw need to suggest that his views, his lies, and his arrogance were  contrary to the message of Christ.  Yet when Barton, in one bried fleeting moment, opted for inclusion rather than condemnation and bigotry this was just too much for the statilon.
I don&#039;t have much use for a huge chunk of Mormon theology. I don&#039;t particularly want to be god of my own planet, for example.
But I also have problems with the theology of Catholocism, the hateful nasty arrogance of the Southern Baptist Convention, the secularism of the Episcopal Church, the small mindedness and uneducated ignorance of much of the Pentecostal movement, the complacency of a good many mainline or moderate evangelical churches, and the general overall way in which Christendom places tremendous importance on the intangible attribute of being &quot;saved&quot; by Jesus&#039; sacrifice but not much attention at all to Jesus&#039; teaching or what that sacrifice was supposed to achieve.
And yet, I do not deny their Christianity.  If we were to measure as God measures: in terms of love, humility, caring for others, seeking his Kingdom within us, striving to bring acclaim to that which is good and honorable and giving little value to that which is terporal or even simply in the most basic &quot;do unto others&quot;, I&#039;m afraid no one would qualify.
So I guess our standard should be that if God is so very gracious and generous as to call &lt;em&gt;me &lt;/em&gt;his child, then I should keep my mouth shut about the shortcomings of others ... just in case it encourages Him to take a closer look at the qualifications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blather utter nonsense and adopt racist ideology: not a problem.  Dare to so suggest that a Mormon might be a Christian: fire him, ban him, get him off the air.<br />
It&#8217;s amusing, but sad.<br />
David Barton has spent years bringing disgrace and shame to the name of Christianity.  But few saw need to suggest that his views, his lies, and his arrogance were  contrary to the message of Christ.  Yet when Barton, in one bried fleeting moment, opted for inclusion rather than condemnation and bigotry this was just too much for the statilon.<br />
I don&#8217;t have much use for a huge chunk of Mormon theology. I don&#8217;t particularly want to be god of my own planet, for example.<br />
But I also have problems with the theology of Catholocism, the hateful nasty arrogance of the Southern Baptist Convention, the secularism of the Episcopal Church, the small mindedness and uneducated ignorance of much of the Pentecostal movement, the complacency of a good many mainline or moderate evangelical churches, and the general overall way in which Christendom places tremendous importance on the intangible attribute of being &#8220;saved&#8221; by Jesus&#8217; sacrifice but not much attention at all to Jesus&#8217; teaching or what that sacrifice was supposed to achieve.<br />
And yet, I do not deny their Christianity.  If we were to measure as God measures: in terms of love, humility, caring for others, seeking his Kingdom within us, striving to bring acclaim to that which is good and honorable and giving little value to that which is terporal or even simply in the most basic &#8220;do unto others&#8221;, I&#8217;m afraid no one would qualify.<br />
So I guess our standard should be that if God is so very gracious and generous as to call <em>me </em>his child, then I should keep my mouth shut about the shortcomings of others &#8230; just in case it encourages Him to take a closer look at the qualifications.</p>
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		By: Arthur		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Barton has shown us time and time again he has no background in theology or history. Wallbuilders is and always has been about manipulating theology and history for a political end. Beck and Barton&#8230;politics makes strange bedfellows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Barton has shown us time and time again he has no background in theology or history. Wallbuilders is and always has been about manipulating theology and history for a political end. Beck and Barton&#8230;politics makes strange bedfellows.</p>
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		By: kathleen mckeithen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kathleen mckeithen]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[It DOES matter whether or not one believes and adheres to Jesus&#039; admotion that, &quot;Ye must be born again.&quot;  It DOES matter if one believes and adheres to the &quot;Book of Mormon,&quot; Catholic traditon, the &quot;Watchtower Society,&quot; etc.
The way of the Cross, coming in absolute repentance to the Lord, asking for forgiveness and receiving the Blood of Jesus Christ as the propitiation (full payment) for our sins/sinful state of being are NOT optional, and stand completely alone with nothing added whatsoever.
Not one of the above noted cults (Catholicism is the world&#039;s largest cult with its putting traditions of men before and in the place of the Word of God) believes, adheres to and preaches that we must be saved by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.
That is why it DOES matter whether or not one is a Mormon or part of any other man-made religion.  To any reader who may be confused about this, please read the entire book of Romans.  The Holy Spirit, through Paul, explains this fully and finally.  Also, include Galations 1:8 where Paul says, &quot;But though we, or an angel from heaven (ie, Moroni....?) preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.&quot;  Those are the words of the Holy Spirit, not mine.
The above statements may sound a bit terse, but I have, at this point, lost patience with &quot;Christians&quot; who cannot discern between the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Mormonism, etc.
Thank you for your patience in reading this statement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It DOES matter whether or not one believes and adheres to Jesus&#8217; admotion that, &#8220;Ye must be born again.&#8221;  It DOES matter if one believes and adheres to the &#8220;Book of Mormon,&#8221; Catholic traditon, the &#8220;Watchtower Society,&#8221; etc.<br />
The way of the Cross, coming in absolute repentance to the Lord, asking for forgiveness and receiving the Blood of Jesus Christ as the propitiation (full payment) for our sins/sinful state of being are NOT optional, and stand completely alone with nothing added whatsoever.<br />
Not one of the above noted cults (Catholicism is the world&#8217;s largest cult with its putting traditions of men before and in the place of the Word of God) believes, adheres to and preaches that we must be saved by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.<br />
That is why it DOES matter whether or not one is a Mormon or part of any other man-made religion.  To any reader who may be confused about this, please read the entire book of Romans.  The Holy Spirit, through Paul, explains this fully and finally.  Also, include Galations 1:8 where Paul says, &#8220;But though we, or an angel from heaven (ie, Moroni&#8230;.?) preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.&#8221;  Those are the words of the Holy Spirit, not mine.<br />
The above statements may sound a bit terse, but I have, at this point, lost patience with &#8220;Christians&#8221; who cannot discern between the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Mormonism, etc.<br />
Thank you for your patience in reading this statement.</p>
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		By: GM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess we don&#039;t need God....we have enough Judges here that can point out who is Christian and who&#039;s not. Looks like bigotry is alive and well. Although, is it bigotry if your speaking of mormons? Maybe not because they are such evil people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we don&#8217;t need God&#8230;.we have enough Judges here that can point out who is Christian and who&#8217;s not. Looks like bigotry is alive and well. Although, is it bigotry if your speaking of mormons? Maybe not because they are such evil people.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/09/14/radio-station-in-texas-cancels-david-bartons-wallbuilders-live-during-show/#comment-88028&quot;&gt;Randy Kleine&lt;/a&gt;.

Randy - Allies should hold allies accountable. If Barton is really an ally, he should not hinder his cause by spreading mostly false information. I have listened to 6 interviews Barton has given and there is only one or two things he says that are accurate. Most of the claims are off. I have tried to contact him, and I know others who have but he brushes it off. He needs to hear from Christians that you can&#039;t win without truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/09/14/radio-station-in-texas-cancels-david-bartons-wallbuilders-live-during-show/#comment-88028">Randy Kleine</a>.</p>
<p>Randy &#8211; Allies should hold allies accountable. If Barton is really an ally, he should not hinder his cause by spreading mostly false information. I have listened to 6 interviews Barton has given and there is only one or two things he says that are accurate. Most of the claims are off. I have tried to contact him, and I know others who have but he brushes it off. He needs to hear from Christians that you can&#8217;t win without truth.</p>
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