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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warren,
&lt;blockquote&gt;The public schools don&#039;t work for everyone and so parents have to know their kids and choose accordingly. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Absolutely!  Parents need to figure out what will work best for them and for their children]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,</p>
<blockquote><p>The public schools don&#8217;t work for everyone and so parents have to know their kids and choose accordingly. </p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely!  Parents need to figure out what will work best for them and for their children</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Carole,
&lt;blockquote&gt;These are intact families with just enough financial resources to have the mother stay at home, although for some it is a hard financial decision.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I know several couples that home school their children.  Two of these couples actually have the father stay at home to do the home schooling because the mother actually makes more money.
I personally have no problem with the idea of home schooling kids and actually couldn&#039;t agree more with your last two paragraphs above:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Our problems are extensive, systemic, and involve not so much the lack of money as the lack of vision about what public education can do, can&#039;t do, should do, shouldn&#039;t do, and these questions can only be answered by people who refuse to be enlightened by the social science data we now have that answers those questions.
It&#039;s sad that the very institution&#8211;education&#8211;that purports to teach logical thinking and reason and science ignores the data we have and continues to pursue strategies that will fail again and again. Even Bill Gates has learned some hard truths that money is not the key.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
However, I don&#039;t think all public schools are doing a poor job of teaching our kids.  Some public schools seem to do very well.  Money may not be the only answer, but it is definitely part (to some degree) of the solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carole,</p>
<blockquote><p>These are intact families with just enough financial resources to have the mother stay at home, although for some it is a hard financial decision.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know several couples that home school their children.  Two of these couples actually have the father stay at home to do the home schooling because the mother actually makes more money.<br />
I personally have no problem with the idea of home schooling kids and actually couldn&#8217;t agree more with your last two paragraphs above:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our problems are extensive, systemic, and involve not so much the lack of money as the lack of vision about what public education can do, can&#8217;t do, should do, shouldn&#8217;t do, and these questions can only be answered by people who refuse to be enlightened by the social science data we now have that answers those questions.<br />
It&#8217;s sad that the very institution&#8211;education&#8211;that purports to teach logical thinking and reason and science ignores the data we have and continues to pursue strategies that will fail again and again. Even Bill Gates has learned some hard truths that money is not the key.</p></blockquote>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think all public schools are doing a poor job of teaching our kids.  Some public schools seem to do very well.  Money may not be the only answer, but it is definitely part (to some degree) of the solution.</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I confess, if I meet new people socially and they mention that they are hme scholing their children (which they almost always reveal early on when getting to know you) I deliberately quietly back away and try and avoid them.
What I did, and what I think works well for the children is to send your children to your faith based school through 8th grade, and then public high school. If the children remain in faith based schools it is to much of a shock to them once they get to college. I always told my kids, &quot;The whole world isn&#039;t of our religion.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess, if I meet new people socially and they mention that they are hme scholing their children (which they almost always reveal early on when getting to know you) I deliberately quietly back away and try and avoid them.<br />
What I did, and what I think works well for the children is to send your children to your faith based school through 8th grade, and then public high school. If the children remain in faith based schools it is to much of a shock to them once they get to college. I always told my kids, &#8220;The whole world isn&#8217;t of our religion.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dawn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[keep the good information coming, I&#039;m definitely interest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep the good information coming, I&#8217;m definitely interest.</p>
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		By: carole		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my area, home schooling seems to have begun with religious folks but the building of two rather large new Christian schools has, it appears, given those people a place they are comfortable sending their kids.
The latest  surge in home schooling  in my area is among college-educated families who are unhappy with the quality of the public schools in the community.  It seems they send the kids to kindergarten, maybe also to first grade, then decide against sending them to public school again  until  about the 8th grade or so.  These are intact families with just enough  financial resources to have the mother stay at home,  although for some it is a hard  financial decision.  They are not religiously affiliated at all.   I became aware of just how this trend was growing when one of my friends and colleagues, a fairly young English teacher,  told me his wife was home-schooling their three little girls. He was the first to educate me about the growing number and network of home-schooled kids.  I was astounded that he, devoted public school teacher that he was, and very liberal, had decided that this was the best for his kids.
And Stephen,
&lt;blockquote&gt;We used to be the best educated country in the world till the Republican party, backed by the for-profit home-school movement, stripped it of proper funding.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m from California, so I can&#039;t speak to the funding of education in your state, but our funding problems started many decades ago when the state began collecting local tax dollars and then redistributing t those dollars  to the localities of the state based on a complex  formula.  This was the result of the passage of our Prop 13, which held the line on how much property taxes could go up each year.  Old people  who owned their homes could no longer afford to stay in their homes because from year to year as the valuation of their homes precipitously increased so too did their property taxes.  While most of the time it&#039;s nice  to know your home has increased in value, it&#039;s  really pretty useless if all you want to do is stay and live in that home,  not sell it.  Millions of older Californians could no longer keep up with the rate of increase of their property  taxes; thus, Prop 13 was passed.
 It had desired results for these home owners, but unintended consequences with regards to local control of schools.  Perhaps if a  state isn&#039;t too large, it might not be bad if it has a great deal of control over the educational system, but in a state as large and diverse in needs from locale to locale as California, the bureaucracy that is our state government has destroyed our public school system  and  it happened long ago and has nothing to do even now with home-schooling.
Our problems are extensive, systemic, and involve not  so much the lack of money as the lack of vision about what public education can do,  can&#039;t do, should do, shouldn&#039;t do, and these questions can only be answered by people who refuse to be enlightened by  the social science data we now have that answers those questions.
It&#039;s sad that the very institution--education--that purports to teach logical thinking and reason and science ignores the data we have and continues to pursue strategies that will fail again and again.  Even Bill Gates has learned some hard truths that money is not the key.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my area, home schooling seems to have begun with religious folks but the building of two rather large new Christian schools has, it appears, given those people a place they are comfortable sending their kids.<br />
The latest  surge in home schooling  in my area is among college-educated families who are unhappy with the quality of the public schools in the community.  It seems they send the kids to kindergarten, maybe also to first grade, then decide against sending them to public school again  until  about the 8th grade or so.  These are intact families with just enough  financial resources to have the mother stay at home,  although for some it is a hard  financial decision.  They are not religiously affiliated at all.   I became aware of just how this trend was growing when one of my friends and colleagues, a fairly young English teacher,  told me his wife was home-schooling their three little girls. He was the first to educate me about the growing number and network of home-schooled kids.  I was astounded that he, devoted public school teacher that he was, and very liberal, had decided that this was the best for his kids.<br />
And Stephen,</p>
<blockquote><p>We used to be the best educated country in the world till the Republican party, backed by the for-profit home-school movement, stripped it of proper funding.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m from California, so I can&#8217;t speak to the funding of education in your state, but our funding problems started many decades ago when the state began collecting local tax dollars and then redistributing t those dollars  to the localities of the state based on a complex  formula.  This was the result of the passage of our Prop 13, which held the line on how much property taxes could go up each year.  Old people  who owned their homes could no longer afford to stay in their homes because from year to year as the valuation of their homes precipitously increased so too did their property taxes.  While most of the time it&#8217;s nice  to know your home has increased in value, it&#8217;s  really pretty useless if all you want to do is stay and live in that home,  not sell it.  Millions of older Californians could no longer keep up with the rate of increase of their property  taxes; thus, Prop 13 was passed.<br />
 It had desired results for these home owners, but unintended consequences with regards to local control of schools.  Perhaps if a  state isn&#8217;t too large, it might not be bad if it has a great deal of control over the educational system, but in a state as large and diverse in needs from locale to locale as California, the bureaucracy that is our state government has destroyed our public school system  and  it happened long ago and has nothing to do even now with home-schooling.<br />
Our problems are extensive, systemic, and involve not  so much the lack of money as the lack of vision about what public education can do,  can&#8217;t do, should do, shouldn&#8217;t do, and these questions can only be answered by people who refuse to be enlightened by  the social science data we now have that answers those questions.<br />
It&#8217;s sad that the very institution&#8211;education&#8211;that purports to teach logical thinking and reason and science ignores the data we have and continues to pursue strategies that will fail again and again.  Even Bill Gates has learned some hard truths that money is not the key.</p>
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