Comments on: What Would Dominionists Do With Gays?

By: Zoe Brain

Zoe Brain — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:04:54 +0000

Open Season declared on Trans children
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/gay-slaying-jury.html

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:47:22 +0000

it would have to criminalize adultery and premarital sex and not single out homosexuality, he said.

Comparing adultery and gayism is really stupid. Gayism is not just an immoral issue, it is also an increasingly an international sexual movement led by Westerners who have an agenda to impose it on every country in the world. Unlike gay sex deviants, adulterers and fornicators do not form international movements to press for their behaviour to be accepted and codified into law. They do not press for people who disapprove of their behaviour to be criminalized with stupid laws such as the one that caused a Swedish Pastor to be arrested and sentenced to a month in jail for criticizing gayism during a church sermon. All the arguments offered so far to support gayism on this comment thread is ridiculous and an insult to the intelligence of the Ugandan people. Gayism is already a criminal offence and we intend to expand the scope of punishment for it regardless of your protestations. And yes, if you do not like what we are doing, then implore your government to withdraw their useless blackmail money (a.k.a “donor aid packages”)

By: Zoe Brain

Zoe Brain — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

StraightGrandmother – and others – please have a read of this one to see how *I* feel.
If a transgender person is murdered and no one notices, did it happen?
Then have a look at the comments here if you want to know how many religious people view trans people. We’re lucky if they just want us dead, without being tortured first. And while these are a minority in the US, those who hold such views number in the millions.

By: flamingRedDingo

flamingRedDingo — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

Thanks Zoe Brain… sadly this kind of thing happens every day. Even in supposedly queer friendly seattle metro area..
signed
yet another seatown transgendered person…
the prison system is an automatic death sentence – as you know.
our system is sick. people are sick. and the T holocaust (that *is* the appropriate term) continues unabated – even in 2011.
i haz a sad… i also bought a house in mexico in the middle of nowehere to escape the stupid puritans .. fuck everybody, but I’ll take the voodoo catholics over the wasps any day…
I wish I didn’t have to feel that way.
Thanks for being a decent human being…
really.

By: Darina

Darina — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

Bookmarked. Thank you, Mr. Throckmorton.
I’m way too secular to understand this kind of mentality, or maybe just too much of a foreigner. The mind boggles…

By: StraightGrandmother

StraightGrandmother — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

I am starting to feel surrounded. I am just now starting to understand how athiests feel.

By: Edward Manning

Edward Manning — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

There is no question that the theonomists are faithfully adhering to the Holy Bible. I say that as someone who has studied the works of RJ Rushdoony, the father of theonomy, and has read his seminal work The Institutes of Biblical Law.
What the reprobate minds of pseudo-Christians like members of NAR cannot grasp is that the implementation of God’s law is not optional. Enlow may not “endorse” this approach, and Wagner may declare that his “position” that “this is not a good way to do it.” But their endorsements and positions have absolutely no authority in this matter. Lev. 20:13 is the authority. Absent a specific statement in the New Testament prohibiting such the death penalty for homosexuals – and there is none – the penalty remains in effect. The same goes true for the penalties for adultery, fornication, rape, idolatry, and witchcraft.
However, the total number of Americans who would actually be executed is far less than is generally predicted. It is simply untrue that a majority of Americans would be put to death. In practical terms, the kill rate would initially be very high, but would decrease as the general deterrent effect of God’s law took hold. We chart this as a concave slope, with the x-axis representing the period of time in which God’s law is in effect and the y-axis as the total number of death sentences issued.
Significantly, the theonomist legal structure would not be imposed retroactively, so sinning Americans would be on notice to get their affairs set right and cease wrongful activity before the new legal order takes effect. Obviously, continuing violations, such as a post-divorce “second marriage” that was consummated before the implementation of theonomy, would be subject to the full penalty. Given both the deterrent effect of public executions and the notice period and absence of retroactivity, it is unlikely that any more than 15-25% of the adult population would actually be put to death. This is no worse than the the mortality rate for plagues in ancient times. The difference is that while ancient societies incurred such a toll as the result of disease, the deaths resulting from the implementation of God’s Word would be curative for society as a whole.
As Rusdoony teaches, Christians are called to obey God and God’s Word. Our own judgments and sentimental impulses do not supersede the Bible. Ultimately, even the non-Christian would rejoice to live under a legal system founded on God’s Word.

By: John Shore

John Shore — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

The work you’ve done on the Uganda gay issue is so outstanding, Warren. Thanks for so diligently, competently, and compassionately championing the bringing of light to this extremely troubling situation.

By: ken

ken — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

Zoe Brain# ~ Sep 1, 2011 at 8:18 pm
“Open Season declared on Trans children”
No Zoe, it doesn’t mean that at all.
I realize this case is very tragic and has personal significance to you. However, this type of hyperbole doesn’t really help.

By: Regan DuCasse

Regan DuCasse — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:20:24 +0000

Good analysis Dr. T.
I find myself in interesting conversations with people who wear their religious beliefs on their sleeves, but don’t want to engage in I would think would be the simplest terms on which we could agree.
Especially the basic directive of treating another person the way they’d want to be treated. It’s a test of basic ethics and morals to walk the walk. Especially when we’re talking about making DISTINCTIONS in what religious sins are as compared to moral sins. And public policy and the limits of government and religious CHOICE.
Our particular country has had those moral creeds tested over the two and half centuries since it’s inception as a country.
Over indigenous populations, over slavery, over women’s rights, over Jim Crow, women’s liberation. The very recent history of Jim Crow and women’s liberation can give us insights on similar national discussions and how religious influence figures into all of it.
And in each of these sea changes in our history, faith communities were as engaged in maintaining dominance and segregation over whatever human beings they wanted.
That is to say, depending on who’s ox was gored, could a person of faith be trusted WITH that faith and how they intended to use it.
I’m sure all of us know people who considered themselves good people. Who were hard working and charitable, who STILL harbored prejudices and denials of the humanity and needs of certain groups. And they WERE good people, essentially, until challenged on deeper than the superficial. There might be a singular incident that triggers the real person underneath, as if their face was a mask most of the time.
Those that aren’t actively attacking or condoning violence or using derogatory language or actions, don’t consider themselves part of a problem. Effectively making it a BIGGER problem.
And extension of evil prevailing when good people do nothing, as it were.
Note that those calling for such dominionism/Christianism…are more of the same people. So entitled and distant from EVER experience real deprivation and threat to their basic human and Constitutional freedoms.
That is to say, a majority of them are white, Christian, male, heterosexual and are of all ages.
You’d think they weren’t already dominating all of our financial, media, political, industrial, religious and foreign policies.
You’d think they’d never been responsible for a lot of ruination, and suffering.
You’d think that their successes didn’t come from either support from the rest of us, or at our expense.
But instead are claiming to be victims of the rest of us who aren’t willing to sit by and take this dominance as a given.
At any rate, we’ve seen pogroms initiated to try and eliminate the usual irritants to such ideals before.
They all have a name and it’s rejected by the very people having this on their wish lists.
It’s not hard to see that when those irritants are engaged as respected allies, rather than dehumanized intruders, everything is better.
Sad that they don’t recognize that for what it is.
Something as God given to us, as their lives are to them.