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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello again, &#039;Maazi NCO&#039;!
I assume that you now accept that the Bahati Bill contains provisions to hang &#039;serial offenders&#039; (where the &#039;offences&#039; include what most civilized people, in Uganda and elsewhere, would regard as entirely reasonable &#039;freedom of expression&#039;), since you have apparently given up trying to claim otherwise.
I&#039;m sure that various governments have given careful thought regarding how they would respond were the Bill to become law, including considering measures to minimize damage to their own vital interests.
Finally, Mr. Bahati has done an excellent job demonizing himself and (unfairly, I submit) soiling Uganda&#039;s image.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again, &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217;!<br />
I assume that you now accept that the Bahati Bill contains provisions to hang &#8216;serial offenders&#8217; (where the &#8216;offences&#8217; include what most civilized people, in Uganda and elsewhere, would regard as entirely reasonable &#8216;freedom of expression&#8217;), since you have apparently given up trying to claim otherwise.<br />
I&#8217;m sure that various governments have given careful thought regarding how they would respond were the Bill to become law, including considering measures to minimize damage to their own vital interests.<br />
Finally, Mr. Bahati has done an excellent job demonizing himself and (unfairly, I submit) soiling Uganda&#8217;s image.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not compulsory for Bahati to personally introduce it. There are many MPs who can do it without any problems. Quit deluding yourself that this an exclusive Bahati matter. It has not been an exclusive Bahati--Ogwal matter since the bill was introduced in October 2009.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not compulsory for Bahati to personally introduce it. There are many MPs who can do it without any problems. Quit deluding yourself that this an exclusive Bahati matter. It has not been an exclusive Bahati&#8211;Ogwal matter since the bill was introduced in October 2009.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[But it&#039;s still the &#039;HANG-the-gays-and-anyone-who-speaks-out-on-their-behalf&#039; Bill, isn&#039;t it?  I notice that you, &#039;Maazi NCO&#039;, did not contradict or contest that part of my statement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it&#8217;s still the &#8216;HANG-the-gays-and-anyone-who-speaks-out-on-their-behalf&#8217; Bill, isn&#8217;t it?  I notice that you, &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217;, did not contradict or contest that part of my statement.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It isn&#039;t just Bahati&#039;s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda, &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Get it through your skull that the Bahati Bill is now a property of the Parliament of Uganda. It is no longer the private property of David Bahati MP.  It is not mandatory for David Bahati to personally take the lead in re-introducing the Bill. Quit this single-minded attempts to delude yourself that demonizing Mr. Bahati will some how cause a bill that now belongs to the entire parliament  to be dumped into a trash can.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just &#039;formal protests&#039; would be a good idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We have been through this already. I am not going to repeat myself again about the geo-political and geo-strategic consequences of Western governments acting &quot;emotionally&quot; to please the Euro-American Gay Lobby. They must think of their interests in the Great Lakes Region of Africa and war-torn Somalia before they make threatening noises to the executive branch of the Ugandan State. On the other hand,  Parliament of Uganda has already vowed not to give into any colonial bullying from foreign interests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It isn&#8217;t just Bahati&#8217;s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda, </p></blockquote>
<p>Get it through your skull that the Bahati Bill is now a property of the Parliament of Uganda. It is no longer the private property of David Bahati MP.  It is not mandatory for David Bahati to personally take the lead in re-introducing the Bill. Quit this single-minded attempts to delude yourself that demonizing Mr. Bahati will some how cause a bill that now belongs to the entire parliament  to be dumped into a trash can.</p>
<blockquote><p>I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just &#8216;formal protests&#8217; would be a good idea.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have been through this already. I am not going to repeat myself again about the geo-political and geo-strategic consequences of Western governments acting &#8220;emotionally&#8221; to please the Euro-American Gay Lobby. They must think of their interests in the Great Lakes Region of Africa and war-torn Somalia before they make threatening noises to the executive branch of the Ugandan State. On the other hand,  Parliament of Uganda has already vowed not to give into any colonial bullying from foreign interests.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Maazi NCO&#039; can &#039;reiterate&#039; his position as much as he pleases (and it clearly pleases him to repeat himself &lt;em&gt;ad nauseam&lt;/em&gt;), but the facts do not support such &#039;reiterations&#039;.
It isn&#039;t just Bahati&#039;s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda, it is also the disingenuous shenanigans we witnessed in May, when the wording of Clause 3 was changed, but its meaning was not.  Noone with more than two brain cells was fooled by that attempt at deception.  All that tawdry little episode did was to put us even more on our guard.  (I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just &#039;formal protests&#039; would be a good idea.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217; can &#8216;reiterate&#8217; his position as much as he pleases (and it clearly pleases him to repeat himself <em>ad nauseam</em>), but the facts do not support such &#8216;reiterations&#8217;.<br />
It isn&#8217;t just Bahati&#8217;s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda, it is also the disingenuous shenanigans we witnessed in May, when the wording of Clause 3 was changed, but its meaning was not.  Noone with more than two brain cells was fooled by that attempt at deception.  All that tawdry little episode did was to put us even more on our guard.  (I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just &#8216;formal protests&#8217; would be a good idea.)</p>
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