Comments on: AFA takes a stand on religious freedom

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:36:31 +0000

Hello again, ‘Maazi NCO’!
I assume that you now accept that the Bahati Bill contains provisions to hang ‘serial offenders’ (where the ‘offences’ include what most civilized people, in Uganda and elsewhere, would regard as entirely reasonable ‘freedom of expression’), since you have apparently given up trying to claim otherwise.
I’m sure that various governments have given careful thought regarding how they would respond were the Bill to become law, including considering measures to minimize damage to their own vital interests.
Finally, Mr. Bahati has done an excellent job demonizing himself and (unfairly, I submit) soiling Uganda’s image.

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

Perhaps you might consider Deng Xiaoping's advice: "Seek truth from facts."

Given our context, I would rather prefer to follow this advice from Deng Xiaoping: "Keep a cool head and maintain a low profile. Never take the lead - but aim to do something big". That is exactly what Parliament of Uganda is going to be doing soon. Something real big

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

Read the text of the Bill, and of the Tashobya Committee’s recommendations, and everything is perfectly clear. You are wrong, ‘Maazi NCO’.
Oh, and another thing: all this rubbish about gays getting loads of western cash. The fact is that comparatively vast sums of money have been given to the likes of Ssempa and their ‘churchlets’ under the PEPFAR programme – far far far more than any human rights organization might dream of receiving. Is the ‘Ssempa et al approach’ working? No. HIV transmission rates in UG are rising, not falling.
Perhaps you might consider Deng Xiaoping’s advice: “Seek truth from facts.“

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

The best solution to this mess is very simple: the UG Parliament should veto Bahati! But that’s up to the MPs, of course (just as any response to the Bill being enacted is up to others).

Colonial rule is over. Ugandans will not be instructed by any foreigner. Do not delude yourself that this a Bahati matter. This a Uganda parliamentary matter. The Bahati Bill now belongs to the Parliament. It is no longer the private property of David Bahati MP

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

Bahati has said otherwise: http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2010/08/10728/
So does his bill. Read it.
‘Maazi NCO’: you are wrong.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

So, you DO accept that it is truly the “Hang-the-gays-etc Bill”. Big and bad, I’d say!
(I seem to recall something ‘big’ happening in Rwanda in 1994.)
If you still maintain that the Bill doesn’t mean what it actually says, perhaps you would care to explain to us how and why this is the case?

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

It isn’t just Bahati’s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda,

Get it through your skull that the Bahati Bill is now a property of the Parliament of Uganda. It is no longer the private property of David Bahati MP. It is not mandatory for David Bahati to personally take the lead in re-introducing the Bill. Quit this single-minded attempts to delude yourself that demonizing Mr. Bahati will some how cause a bill that now belongs to the entire parliament to be dumped into a trash can.

I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just ‘formal protests’ would be a good idea.

We have been through this already. I am not going to repeat myself again about the geo-political and geo-strategic consequences of Western governments acting “emotionally” to please the Euro-American Gay Lobby. They must think of their interests in the Great Lakes Region of Africa and war-torn Somalia before they make threatening noises to the executive branch of the Ugandan State. On the other hand, Parliament of Uganda has already vowed not to give into any colonial bullying from foreign interests.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

‘Maazi NCO’ can ‘reiterate’ his position as much as he pleases (and it clearly pleases him to repeat himself ad nauseam), but the facts do not support such ‘reiterations’.
It isn’t just Bahati’s past open admissions that demonstrate that killing is the agenda, it is also the disingenuous shenanigans we witnessed in May, when the wording of Clause 3 was changed, but its meaning was not. Noone with more than two brain cells was fooled by that attempt at deception. All that tawdry little episode did was to put us even more on our guard. (I suspect that it also convinced certain governments that, in the event of the Bill passing, more than just ‘formal protests’ would be a good idea.)

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

It is not compulsory for Bahati to personally introduce it. There are many MPs who can do it without any problems. Quit deluding yourself that this an exclusive Bahati matter. It has not been an exclusive Bahati–Ogwal matter since the bill was introduced in October 2009.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:13 +0000

But it’s still the ‘HANG-the-gays-and-anyone-who-speaks-out-on-their-behalf’ Bill, isn’t it? I notice that you, ‘Maazi NCO’, did not contradict or contest that part of my statement.