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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are you saying the Cohen warns people that their are negative risks associated with his holding intervention?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying the Cohen warns people that their are negative risks associated with his holding intervention?</p>
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		By: StraightGrandmother		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anne
&lt;blockquote&gt;Neither do I. I do think there is something very wrong in projecting a set of beliefs that might apply to some, onto everyone. You believe something, therefore it must apply to everyone. Should someone not fit the mold you&#039;ve already made up your mind about, you want to diminish it, therefore confirming your bias. I&#039;m not sure what benefit is derived from that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe you are right Ann. Statistically MOM, Mixed Orientation Marriages, are not very often successful, and the person who is harmed the most, is the heterosexual spouse. So I guess I am going by the statistics, not some made up bias on my part. Is that confirmation bias?  I am very uneasy about medical or therapeutic efforts  when those efforts can harm another person, a second person, not the person who is asking for help. I know I am not saying it right. It seems to me that there is a difference if you want to try some therapy and it just involves yourself. But when you try some therapy and then &quot;try it out to see if it works&quot; on another person, especially an unsuspecting person, that makes me really uneasy. I don&#039;t wish any of them well, I wish them to run for the hills before they have wasted the best  years of their life on something that isn&#039;t going to provide them in the long term, a good happy life, for BOTH the sexual minority AND the heterosexual spouse. So far this is what the research shows so that is why I feel this way.
Here is a question, what other medical treatments or therapies does a patient receive that has the potential to harm another person? Maybe you or someone here can think of some, I can&#039;t think of any other one, other than therapy to help a sexual minority lead a heterosexual behaved life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne</p>
<blockquote><p>Neither do I. I do think there is something very wrong in projecting a set of beliefs that might apply to some, onto everyone. You believe something, therefore it must apply to everyone. Should someone not fit the mold you&#8217;ve already made up your mind about, you want to diminish it, therefore confirming your bias. I&#8217;m not sure what benefit is derived from that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe you are right Ann. Statistically MOM, Mixed Orientation Marriages, are not very often successful, and the person who is harmed the most, is the heterosexual spouse. So I guess I am going by the statistics, not some made up bias on my part. Is that confirmation bias?  I am very uneasy about medical or therapeutic efforts  when those efforts can harm another person, a second person, not the person who is asking for help. I know I am not saying it right. It seems to me that there is a difference if you want to try some therapy and it just involves yourself. But when you try some therapy and then &#8220;try it out to see if it works&#8221; on another person, especially an unsuspecting person, that makes me really uneasy. I don&#8217;t wish any of them well, I wish them to run for the hills before they have wasted the best  years of their life on something that isn&#8217;t going to provide them in the long term, a good happy life, for BOTH the sexual minority AND the heterosexual spouse. So far this is what the research shows so that is why I feel this way.<br />
Here is a question, what other medical treatments or therapies does a patient receive that has the potential to harm another person? Maybe you or someone here can think of some, I can&#8217;t think of any other one, other than therapy to help a sexual minority lead a heterosexual behaved life.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Statistically MOM, Mixed Orientation Marriages, are not very often successful, and the person who is harmed the most, is the heterosexual spouse. So I guess I am going by the statistics, not some made up bias on my part. Is that confirmation bias?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
StraightGrandmother,
How many people in mixed orientation marriages, who are happy with their own definition of happiness or succes regarding their marriage, are going to be posting on the web site you are referring to?  Probably few as they are going about living their life as they want to - together, and by their own values and motivations for getting married, they consider their marriage successful.   If I am understanding your correctly, you only know about the marriages on the web site, not the other ones.  50% of non-mixed orientation marriages end in divorce - I am sure there are many web sites for those people as well, however, I doubt you will see the other 50% posting there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Statistically MOM, Mixed Orientation Marriages, are not very often successful, and the person who is harmed the most, is the heterosexual spouse. So I guess I am going by the statistics, not some made up bias on my part. Is that confirmation bias?</p></blockquote>
<p>StraightGrandmother,<br />
How many people in mixed orientation marriages, who are happy with their own definition of happiness or succes regarding their marriage, are going to be posting on the web site you are referring to?  Probably few as they are going about living their life as they want to &#8211; together, and by their own values and motivations for getting married, they consider their marriage successful.   If I am understanding your correctly, you only know about the marriages on the web site, not the other ones.  50% of non-mixed orientation marriages end in divorce &#8211; I am sure there are many web sites for those people as well, however, I doubt you will see the other 50% posting there.</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Exodus believes the opposite of homosexuality is not heterosexuality. It is holiness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What is the opposite of heterosexuality?
What does Exodus mean by &#039;homosexuality&#039;?  Behavior, or same-gender sexual behavior?&lt;blockquote&gt;To be free from the constant pull of homosexual desires&#8230;
To have deeply fulfilling non-sexual friendships with other men, and to belong to a close community of men&#8230;
Perhaps to have a happy marriage, to be a loving father, or else to be contentedly single&#8230;
To live a life we feel is aligned with God&#039;s will for us&#8230;
Many of us could ask for nothing more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Several questions from this quote come to mind:
1.)  Don&#039;t str8 people fit somewhere in all this?
2.)  How many str8 men have deeply fulfilling friendships with other men?
3.)  How many str8 people live a life aligned with God&#039;s will for them?
Finally, back to the idea of &quot;the opposite of homosexuality is holiness&quot; ... it really miffs me that I&#039;m supposed to be holy ... and, str8 persons are what?
Why the difference?  Why are gay persons called to &#039;be holy&#039;, in a community that most often could care less about us ... and, frankly, most don&#039;t think we&#039;re even &#039;normal&#039;.
Why&#039;s the bar raised so high for us, and not for str8 persons?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Exodus believes the opposite of homosexuality is not heterosexuality. It is holiness.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is the opposite of heterosexuality?<br />
What does Exodus mean by &#8216;homosexuality&#8217;?  Behavior, or same-gender sexual behavior?</p>
<blockquote><p>To be free from the constant pull of homosexual desires&#8230;<br />
To have deeply fulfilling non-sexual friendships with other men, and to belong to a close community of men&#8230;<br />
Perhaps to have a happy marriage, to be a loving father, or else to be contentedly single&#8230;<br />
To live a life we feel is aligned with God&#8217;s will for us&#8230;<br />
Many of us could ask for nothing more.</p></blockquote>
<p>Several questions from this quote come to mind:<br />
1.)  Don&#8217;t str8 people fit somewhere in all this?<br />
2.)  How many str8 men have deeply fulfilling friendships with other men?<br />
3.)  How many str8 people live a life aligned with God&#8217;s will for them?<br />
Finally, back to the idea of &#8220;the opposite of homosexuality is holiness&#8221; &#8230; it really miffs me that I&#8217;m supposed to be holy &#8230; and, str8 persons are what?<br />
Why the difference?  Why are gay persons called to &#8216;be holy&#8217;, in a community that most often could care less about us &#8230; and, frankly, most don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re even &#8216;normal&#8217;.<br />
Why&#8217;s the bar raised so high for us, and not for str8 persons?</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AJ,
The issue is the quote: &quot;skin to skin.&quot;
Is that what you observed on the weekend?
Warren,
Christians have formed sects called Quakers, Shakers and so on.  Think of alter calls and camp meetings.
If two ex-gay men hug each other in church or sit next to each other too close, what does your church think?
Look up Joe Kort, M.A. on google search.  XGW had a posting from him, I don&#039;t know if they still do.  For some time he advocated Warrior weekends for gay and straight men.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ,<br />
The issue is the quote: &#8220;skin to skin.&#8221;<br />
Is that what you observed on the weekend?<br />
Warren,<br />
Christians have formed sects called Quakers, Shakers and so on.  Think of alter calls and camp meetings.<br />
If two ex-gay men hug each other in church or sit next to each other too close, what does your church think?<br />
Look up Joe Kort, M.A. on google search.  XGW had a posting from him, I don&#8217;t know if they still do.  For some time he advocated Warrior weekends for gay and straight men.</p>
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