Comments on: Ugandan MP says new anti-gay bill could be law soon

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 23:16:32 +0000

And it does seem extraordinary that, at a time when food prices in UG are rising, chronic food shortages are hitting other East African countries and the UG Shilling’s value continues to decline….

Thanks for reminding us of our problems. Now mind your own country’s business.

…. that some UG MPs seem to think that spitting in the face of the international community is something worth doing. …

Since when has western nations who represent around 10% of the world’s population become the “international community”? Is this some kind of joke?

Let’s hope that ‘cooler heads’ prevail, as they have done on the past two occasions when the Bahati Bill came close to being enacted.

You have no idea what is going down in Kampala. Bahati’s revised bill is just one of several legislative approaches looming in the horizon. I am confident that everybody in Uganda have learnt from “past experience”. We are ready this time. No mistakes. Gay advocacy in Uganda will come to an end before the 9th Parliament disbands.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000

Hello ‘Maazi NCO’!
On the subject of the ‘international community’: I think you’ll find that the governments of such important emerging powers as Brazil and South Africa are not inclined to support the ‘Bahati approach’ (which isn’t, as you seem to claim, merely about opposing advocacy for things like “gay marriage”, but about legalizing the arbitrary slaughter of ‘groups’ of people).
Beware ‘misguided nationalism’: don’t support Bahati – even though you can see perfectly well that his Bill is vicious and totalitarian – just because you want to ‘make a point’ about UG’s sovereignty. We all have to recognize that we live in an interconnected world, and repression spawned in Kampala can have serious implications for other countries as well as for Uganda.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000

(Of course, ‘Maazi’s’ rhetoric about ‘debased seuxal behaviour’ is entirely justified, since all Ugandans are ‘as pure as the driven snow’ – they never have ‘side-dishes’; they never lie about what they get up to in private; no Ugandan even rapes anyone or defiles a child; no Ugandan child is taught about homosexuality so that he/she then take part in demonstrations against it; no Ugandan pastor ever gives a public porn show. Uganda is the paragon of moral purity in every way, and an oasis of peace and tranquility.)

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000

Ah yes, Otto ¨I´d kill my son if he were Gay¨ Odonga is no doubt lining up whatever slimelike Parliamentary campaign he can rise to great heights of self-imagined notoriety with–it´s sad to see the degree of ignorance and simple bad judgment a bigmouthed MP like Otto has…btw, Otto doesn´t even have a son but no doubt would kill anyone with whom he finds to be ¨different¨ sexually!

The irony of the situation was that MP Odongo Otto was one of the parliamentarians that initially opposed the original Bahati Bill on grounds that it was duplicating existing laws. ( I did not agree with the Bill because of its harsh provisions.)
But then, Odongo started seeing all manners of western-controlled gay sex militants in Uganda coming out of the woodwork to defend their “right” to engage in the abominable act of gayism. This annoyed him greatly. It was then that it finally dawned on him that the Ugandan State needed some kind of law to restrict the activities of deviants for the sake of posterity. None of us here in Uganda want to see the nonsense happening in New York in a couple of decades. I don’t even want my grand kids to see these things in their life time !

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000

So, ‘Maazi NCO’, you are saying that the revised Bahati Bill (which still contains ‘slaughter provisions’ relating to people who, for example, quietly live together bothering noone) is a ‘masterpiece’?
Does this mean that your line is effectively something like this: “I don’t like what ‘westerners’ are (allegedly) doing, so I’m going to support proposals to slaughter some Ugandans“? Don’t quite see the logic there, dearie!

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000

Last week, committees were formed and rules or order are being devised. Jockeying for power and influence occupy the efforts of those in the ruling party and those in the opposition.

Ah interesting ! Warren !!!
You even found time between the confetti and the wine bottles popping to celebrate New York State’s approval of “matrimony” for gay sex practitioners to “spy” on the Ugandan Parliament via our newspapers. Thank God, many of our plans do not make it to the print or electronic media. This parliamentary year is shaping up to be an interesting one. Since I cannot prevent you from snooping on our country, may I wish you happy a marathon newspaper reading operation. Don’t just read the New Vision and Daily Monitor. Also read the Ugandan Record, Ugandan Independent, Ugandan Observer, UG Pulse and Red Pepper. You can even try reading BUKEDDE, our native Lugandan language newspaper or ORUMURI newspaper which is written in Runyankole language. You never know what important news may be locked away in these native language newspapers. Get CIA linguists to translate for you.

By: Leonardo Ricardo

Leonardo Ricardo — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:20:22 +0000

Ah yes, Otto ¨I´d kill my son if he were Gay¨ Odonga is no doubt lining up whatever slimelike Parliamentary campaign he can rise to great heights of self-imagined notoriety with–it´s sad to see the degree of ignorance and simple bad judgment a bigmouthed MP like Otto has…btw, Otto doesn´t even have a son but no doubt would kill anyone with whom he finds to be ¨different¨ sexually!
Sad daze in Uganda repeating themselves again.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:14:33 +0000

Of course, we all know that David Bahati is not in the slightest bit interested in ‘protecting children’. If he were, he would have thrown his energy into crafting legislation, and proposing programmes, to this end.
The ‘protecting children’ line is simply propaganda used in an attempt to ‘justify’ the slaughter of men and women (yes – we must not forget that DB wants homosexual women to be [imprisoned for life* or] hanged, even though they can’t “b*gg*r” [to use ‘M-NCO’s’ expression] anyone, and very very few are known ever to have abused children).
* for a ‘one-off’ event

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:14:33 +0000

News just in: the deportation (due this evening) of the asylum seeker to whom I referred earlier has been halted pending a fresh look at the case.
The psychiatric expert witness in this case has, with respect to the original determination by the UKBA, said this: “… appears … to ignore my … clinical assessment.” (I have, for security reasons, edited the quote to make it ‘ungooglable’. The sense of the quote is not altered.)

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 18:14:33 +0000

Re. the original post.
From Sunday’s Monitor: “Legal practitioner and current chair of the House Committee on Government Assurance Odonga Otto [FDC, Aruu] says although it is important that Parliament does not shelve reports without debating them, whether the 9th Parliament should revisit the work of its predecessor, is an issue that calls for legal opinion from House Speaker Rebecca Kadaga.”
This is consistent with the notion that either Bahati will have to ‘start over’ or a new bill (a more ‘subtle’ and ‘devious’ one) will need to be introduced. As a result of the uproar caused by Bahati & Co., the US and EU positions seem to be that any increased repression would be seen as ‘grave provocation’, and that current discriminatory legislation should be repealed. ‘Sources’ indicate that, post-Bahati, the aforementioned positions have ‘hardened’ considerably (remember that the US and EU were not making a huge fuss about Penal Code 145 before Bahati’s proposed ‘slaughter programme’ broke cover). Also, my own analysis of the UG press suggests that the number of homophobic articles has decreased quite dramatically in number since late 2009. There have even been a few ‘sympathetic’ articles since early 2010. This may reflect increased sensitivity on the part of the ‘powers-that-be’ in Kampala since Bahati started his campaign. This sensitivity is also indicated by other ‘sources’.