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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And it does seem extraordinary that, at a time when food prices in UG are rising, chronic food shortages are hitting other East African countries and the UG Shilling&#039;s value continues to decline....&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks for reminding us of our problems. Now mind your own country&#039;s business.
&lt;blockquote&gt;.... that some UG MPs seem to think that spitting in the face of the international community is something worth doing. ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Since when has western nations who represent around 10% of the world&#039;s population become the &quot;international community&quot;? Is this some kind of joke?
&lt;blockquote&gt;Let&#039;s hope that &#039;cooler heads&#039; prevail, as they have done on the past two occasions when the Bahati Bill came close to being enacted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You have no idea what is going down in Kampala. Bahati&#039;s revised bill is just one of several legislative approaches looming  in the horizon. I am confident that everybody in Uganda have learnt from &quot;past experience&quot;. We are ready this time. No mistakes. Gay advocacy in Uganda will come to an end before the 9th Parliament disbands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And it does seem extraordinary that, at a time when food prices in UG are rising, chronic food shortages are hitting other East African countries and the UG Shilling&#8217;s value continues to decline&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for reminding us of our problems. Now mind your own country&#8217;s business.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;. that some UG MPs seem to think that spitting in the face of the international community is something worth doing. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Since when has western nations who represent around 10% of the world&#8217;s population become the &#8220;international community&#8221;? Is this some kind of joke?</p>
<blockquote><p>Let&#8217;s hope that &#8216;cooler heads&#8217; prevail, as they have done on the past two occasions when the Bahati Bill came close to being enacted.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have no idea what is going down in Kampala. Bahati&#8217;s revised bill is just one of several legislative approaches looming  in the horizon. I am confident that everybody in Uganda have learnt from &#8220;past experience&#8221;. We are ready this time. No mistakes. Gay advocacy in Uganda will come to an end before the 9th Parliament disbands.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, &#039;Maazi NCO&#039;, you are saying that the revised Bahati Bill (which still contains &#039;slaughter provisions&#039; relating to people who, for example, quietly live together bothering noone) is a &#039;masterpiece&#039;?
Does this mean that your line is effectively something like this: &lt;em&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t like what &#039;westerners&#039; are (allegedly) doing, so I&#039;m going to support proposals to slaughter some &lt;strong&gt;Ugandans&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;&lt;/em&gt;?  Don&#039;t quite see the logic there, dearie!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217;, you are saying that the revised Bahati Bill (which still contains &#8216;slaughter provisions&#8217; relating to people who, for example, quietly live together bothering noone) is a &#8216;masterpiece&#8217;?<br />
Does this mean that your line is effectively something like this: <em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t like what &#8216;westerners&#8217; are (allegedly) doing, so I&#8217;m going to support proposals to slaughter some <strong>Ugandans</strong>&#8220;</em>?  Don&#8217;t quite see the logic there, dearie!</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello &#039;Maazi NCO&#039;!
On the subject of the &#039;international community&#039;: I think you&#039;ll find that the governments of such important emerging powers as Brazil and South Africa are not inclined to support the &#039;Bahati approach&#039; (which isn&#039;t, as you seem to claim, merely about opposing advocacy for things like &quot;gay marriage&quot;, but about legalizing the arbitrary slaughter of &#039;groups&#039; of people).
Beware &#039;misguided nationalism&#039;: don&#039;t support Bahati - even though you can see perfectly well that his Bill is vicious and totalitarian - just because you want to &#039;make a point&#039; about UG&#039;s sovereignty.  We all have to recognize that we live in an interconnected world, and repression spawned in Kampala can have serious implications for other countries as well as for Uganda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8216;Maazi NCO&#8217;!<br />
On the subject of the &#8216;international community&#8217;: I think you&#8217;ll find that the governments of such important emerging powers as Brazil and South Africa are not inclined to support the &#8216;Bahati approach&#8217; (which isn&#8217;t, as you seem to claim, merely about opposing advocacy for things like &#8220;gay marriage&#8221;, but about legalizing the arbitrary slaughter of &#8216;groups&#8217; of people).<br />
Beware &#8216;misguided nationalism&#8217;: don&#8217;t support Bahati &#8211; even though you can see perfectly well that his Bill is vicious and totalitarian &#8211; just because you want to &#8216;make a point&#8217; about UG&#8217;s sovereignty.  We all have to recognize that we live in an interconnected world, and repression spawned in Kampala can have serious implications for other countries as well as for Uganda.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[(Of course, &#039;Maazi&#039;s&#039; rhetoric about &#039;debased seuxal behaviour&#039; is entirely justified, since all Ugandans are &#039;as pure as the driven snow&#039; - they never have &#039;side-dishes&#039;; they never lie about what they get up to in private; no Ugandan even rapes anyone or defiles a child; no Ugandan child is taught about homosexuality so that he/she then take part in demonstrations against it; no Ugandan pastor ever gives a public porn show.  Uganda is the paragon of moral purity in every way, and an oasis of peace and tranquility.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Of course, &#8216;Maazi&#8217;s&#8217; rhetoric about &#8216;debased seuxal behaviour&#8217; is entirely justified, since all Ugandans are &#8216;as pure as the driven snow&#8217; &#8211; they never have &#8216;side-dishes&#8217;; they never lie about what they get up to in private; no Ugandan even rapes anyone or defiles a child; no Ugandan child is taught about homosexuality so that he/she then take part in demonstrations against it; no Ugandan pastor ever gives a public porn show.  Uganda is the paragon of moral purity in every way, and an oasis of peace and tranquility.)</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah yes, Otto &#168;I&#180;d kill my son if he were Gay&#168; Odonga is no doubt lining up whatever slimelike Parliamentary campaign he can rise to great heights of self-imagined notoriety with&#8211;it&#180;s sad to see the degree of ignorance and simple bad judgment a bigmouthed MP like Otto has&#8230;btw, Otto doesn&#180;t even have a son but no doubt would kill anyone with whom he finds to be &#168;different&#168; sexually!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The irony of the situation was that MP Odongo Otto was one of the parliamentarians that initially opposed the original Bahati Bill on grounds that it was duplicating existing laws. ( I did not agree with the Bill because of its harsh provisions.)
But then, Odongo started seeing all manners of western-controlled gay sex militants in Uganda coming out of the woodwork to defend their &quot;right&quot; to engage in the abominable act of gayism. This annoyed him greatly. It was then that it finally dawned on him that the Ugandan State needed some kind of law to restrict the activities of deviants for the sake of posterity. None of us here in Uganda want to see the nonsense happening in New York in a couple of decades. I don&#039;t even want my grand kids to see these things in their life time !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ah yes, Otto &#168;I&#180;d kill my son if he were Gay&#168; Odonga is no doubt lining up whatever slimelike Parliamentary campaign he can rise to great heights of self-imagined notoriety with&#8211;it&#180;s sad to see the degree of ignorance and simple bad judgment a bigmouthed MP like Otto has&#8230;btw, Otto doesn&#180;t even have a son but no doubt would kill anyone with whom he finds to be &#168;different&#168; sexually!</p></blockquote>
<p>The irony of the situation was that MP Odongo Otto was one of the parliamentarians that initially opposed the original Bahati Bill on grounds that it was duplicating existing laws. ( I did not agree with the Bill because of its harsh provisions.)<br />
But then, Odongo started seeing all manners of western-controlled gay sex militants in Uganda coming out of the woodwork to defend their &#8220;right&#8221; to engage in the abominable act of gayism. This annoyed him greatly. It was then that it finally dawned on him that the Ugandan State needed some kind of law to restrict the activities of deviants for the sake of posterity. None of us here in Uganda want to see the nonsense happening in New York in a couple of decades. I don&#8217;t even want my grand kids to see these things in their life time !</p>
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