StraightGrandmother……. @Madison, “It is terribly politically incorrect to be heterosexual affirming nowadays.” True dat. The way you obviously practice, “heterosexual affirming” which is obvious by your comments here.

Why should one preclude the other? Or the need to attack one be engendered in either?
I only wonder because I went to the baptism of my cousin’s granddaughter this last weekend, a very life-affirming affair – be that life she grows into be heterosexual or not, it also affirms her very heterosexual parents. Well, that and I happen to be gay and an atheist. So where is the absolute need for mutual exclusion?
I think that is exactly Albert Mohler’s point. Mutual exclusion is no longer an option.
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I’ve tested out many different approaches and even the softest and most sensible ones don’t change the reaction much. There’s simply a knee-jerk reaction to even the slightest hint of “born gay” skepticism.

Is your participation here, Madison, one of proselytizing the position that no one is “born gay”? Are you seeking converts? I believe it can only be frustrating to you, to continue to do the same thing, and expect different results.

now that it is personal and you know a gay person you are close to there is much less demonizing

On one hand, yes, in public a person who knows a lot of gay people is almost required to support them or be ridiculed. It is terribly politically incorrect to be heterosexual affirming nowadays.
However, on the other hand, having closer friends or family members come out can easily make one even more annoyed by the gay community, it’s propagandizing and war on SOCE.