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	Comments on: NARTH likes half of the NYT Magazine&#039;s coverage of sexual identity issues	</title>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is to me understandable and logical to believe that we&#039;re all heterosexual... The term homosexual orientation was introduced to bring in a sense of political correctness because to say that it&#039;s just an orientation implies a character trait that is unchangeable when for some ppl change has proven to be possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is to me understandable and logical to believe that we&#8217;re all heterosexual&#8230; The term homosexual orientation was introduced to bring in a sense of political correctness because to say that it&#8217;s just an orientation implies a character trait that is unchangeable when for some ppl change has proven to be possible.</p>
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		By: Madison		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding born gay theory, Throbert makes the common but massive error in disregarding those first 5-12 years. For gays, &quot;my whole life&quot; means &quot;since I was 8&quot;. It is orders of magnitude easier to identify hereditary or innate attributes than it is those shaped during adolescence and yet the evidence for born gay is severely lacking. And let&#039;s not forget that evolution frowns on traits that hinder reproduction which I&#039;m going to go out on a limb and suggest that same sex attraction would probably fall under that umbrella.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding born gay theory, Throbert makes the common but massive error in disregarding those first 5-12 years. For gays, &#8220;my whole life&#8221; means &#8220;since I was 8&#8221;. It is orders of magnitude easier to identify hereditary or innate attributes than it is those shaped during adolescence and yet the evidence for born gay is severely lacking. And let&#8217;s not forget that evolution frowns on traits that hinder reproduction which I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and suggest that same sex attraction would probably fall under that umbrella.</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Madison it seems to me that we&#039;re on the same page and with the same perspective.  I&#039;ve just read the second to last comment or so and it seems that we&#039;re on the same side.
I believe in self determination and I don&#039;t believe that all reparative therapy is unhealthy or even wrong but therapy done in the past even some techniques used today I wouldn&#039;t agree with but when we&#039;re wanting to leave homosexuality we should have the freedom to explore that and not be hindered because a group of ppl are making a premature declaration that we&#039;re born gay when there is no scientific fact to back that up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Madison it seems to me that we&#8217;re on the same page and with the same perspective.  I&#8217;ve just read the second to last comment or so and it seems that we&#8217;re on the same side.<br />
I believe in self determination and I don&#8217;t believe that all reparative therapy is unhealthy or even wrong but therapy done in the past even some techniques used today I wouldn&#8217;t agree with but when we&#8217;re wanting to leave homosexuality we should have the freedom to explore that and not be hindered because a group of ppl are making a premature declaration that we&#8217;re born gay when there is no scientific fact to back that up.</p>
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		By: Madison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Madison]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teresa, sorry, I might have gotten testy, too. I would definitely say that what you bring to the discussion here is far more reasonable and informative than some of the others.
Sarah, not sure where the confusion arose but I would never imply that NARTH is preventing self determination since, as you point out, it&#039;s the opposite. And I do think we are on the same wavelength here. Glad I&#039;m not alone.
Ken, everyone cherry picks and distorts the data. You just did it right there.
And please do tell what basic rights are being denied to gays. I&#039;ll save you some typing: you are able to get married just like every other citizen.
I do generally like what Warren has to say however more recently he has been alarmingly dismissive both of folks here and most things &quot;heterosexual affirming&quot;. For instance on the sissy boy stuff and the HuffPo article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa, sorry, I might have gotten testy, too. I would definitely say that what you bring to the discussion here is far more reasonable and informative than some of the others.<br />
Sarah, not sure where the confusion arose but I would never imply that NARTH is preventing self determination since, as you point out, it&#8217;s the opposite. And I do think we are on the same wavelength here. Glad I&#8217;m not alone.<br />
Ken, everyone cherry picks and distorts the data. You just did it right there.<br />
And please do tell what basic rights are being denied to gays. I&#8217;ll save you some typing: you are able to get married just like every other citizen.<br />
I do generally like what Warren has to say however more recently he has been alarmingly dismissive both of folks here and most things &#8220;heterosexual affirming&#8221;. For instance on the sissy boy stuff and the HuffPo article.</p>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I forgot to add, and forgive this oversight, some of us here are intersex or transsexual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add, and forgive this oversight, some of us here are intersex or transsexual.</p>
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