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	Comments on: CNN: Efforts to change feminine boy created a troubled man	</title>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We affirm that Biblical spanking may cause temporary and superficial bruises or welts that do not constitute child abuse, but that proven brutality to a child resulting in permanent disfigurement or serious injury should be punished by law&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This suggests he supported the physical abuse of Kirk by his father as a legitimate way to carry out the treatment program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We affirm that Biblical spanking may cause temporary and superficial bruises or welts that do not constitute child abuse, but that proven brutality to a child resulting in permanent disfigurement or serious injury should be punished by law</p></blockquote>
<p>This suggests he supported the physical abuse of Kirk by his father as a legitimate way to carry out the treatment program.</p>
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		By: Zoe Brain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe Brain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*SIGH*
Here&#039;s a heavily cherry-picked sample of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/cor/family.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Christian World View of the Family&lt;/a&gt; , Edited by Dr. George Rekers, Ph.D., Chairman; Jerry Regier, M.A.B.S., Co-Chairman; With contributions by members of the Family Committee of The Coalition on Revival; Dr. Jay Grimstead, General Editor; E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor:
&lt;blockquote&gt;We deny that premarital and extramarital sexual relationships, promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, exhibitionism, pornography, adult-child sexual relations, prostitution, and sex-act entertainment, masturbation, and other sexual deviations should be sanctioned or accepted as &quot;normal&quot; or legal, even if done alone or by consenting partners; and that any sexual behavior that deviates from the norm of a loving, marital heterosexuality can be considered a mature, untreatable, or acceptable life-long pattern, even if the individual involved does not wish to change.
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We affirm that the husband has final say in any family dispute, insofar as he does not violate Biblical principles; that a husband&#039;s headship is irrevocable;
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We deny that the state has a right to impose unrealistic standards on families; that the so-called offenses of &quot;emotional neglect,&quot; &quot;emotional abuse,&quot; &quot;educational neglect,&quot; etc., which form the bulk of substantiated reports of &quot;child abuse and neglect,&quot; are in fact crimes against children;
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We affirm that Biblical spanking may cause temporary and superficial bruises or welts that do not constitute child abuse, but that proven brutality to a child resulting in permanent disfigurement or serious injury should be punished by law&lt;/blockquote&gt;So temporary disfigurement is fine, and there&#039;s no such thing as emotional cruelty. And Masturbation should be illegal. As should any sex outside marriage.
This from a man who is a practicing Child Psychologist.
Warren, I commented about this many moons ago. I called for an investigation, follow-ups of this man&#039;s patients. I want to know how many children have died. I want to know how these Hyper-Christian Hypocrites who seem devoid of empathy can get away with this for so long.
At some point, there is a restriction, not on religious belief, but on religious practice. To take the most extreme example, devout, genuine worshippers of Huitzilopochtli are not allowed to practice human sacrifice, no matter how much a core belief that may be. At what point does cult belief become a disqualifier for medical practioners who practice what they preach on children?  At what point do professional organisations have a duty to step in?
I don&#039;t know: trample not on others religions, if you don&#039;t want yours to be trampled on in turn. But there have to be limits.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SIGH*<br />
Here&#8217;s a heavily cherry-picked sample of  <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/cor/family.html" rel="nofollow">The Christian World View of the Family</a> , Edited by Dr. George Rekers, Ph.D., Chairman; Jerry Regier, M.A.B.S., Co-Chairman; With contributions by members of the Family Committee of The Coalition on Revival; Dr. Jay Grimstead, General Editor; E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor:</p>
<blockquote><p>We deny that premarital and extramarital sexual relationships, promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, exhibitionism, pornography, adult-child sexual relations, prostitution, and sex-act entertainment, masturbation, and other sexual deviations should be sanctioned or accepted as &#8220;normal&#8221; or legal, even if done alone or by consenting partners; and that any sexual behavior that deviates from the norm of a loving, marital heterosexuality can be considered a mature, untreatable, or acceptable life-long pattern, even if the individual involved does not wish to change.<br />
&#8230;<br />
We affirm that the husband has final say in any family dispute, insofar as he does not violate Biblical principles; that a husband&#8217;s headship is irrevocable;<br />
&#8230;<br />
We deny that the state has a right to impose unrealistic standards on families; that the so-called offenses of &#8220;emotional neglect,&#8221; &#8220;emotional abuse,&#8221; &#8220;educational neglect,&#8221; etc., which form the bulk of substantiated reports of &#8220;child abuse and neglect,&#8221; are in fact crimes against children;<br />
&#8230;<br />
We affirm that Biblical spanking may cause temporary and superficial bruises or welts that do not constitute child abuse, but that proven brutality to a child resulting in permanent disfigurement or serious injury should be punished by law</p></blockquote>
<p>So temporary disfigurement is fine, and there&#8217;s no such thing as emotional cruelty. And Masturbation should be illegal. As should any sex outside marriage.<br />
This from a man who is a practicing Child Psychologist.<br />
Warren, I commented about this many moons ago. I called for an investigation, follow-ups of this man&#8217;s patients. I want to know how many children have died. I want to know how these Hyper-Christian Hypocrites who seem devoid of empathy can get away with this for so long.<br />
At some point, there is a restriction, not on religious belief, but on religious practice. To take the most extreme example, devout, genuine worshippers of Huitzilopochtli are not allowed to practice human sacrifice, no matter how much a core belief that may be. At what point does cult belief become a disqualifier for medical practioners who practice what they preach on children?  At what point do professional organisations have a duty to step in?<br />
I don&#8217;t know: trample not on others religions, if you don&#8217;t want yours to be trampled on in turn. But there have to be limits.<br />
&#8216;</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/06/08/cnn-efforts-to-change-feminine-boy-created-a-troubled-man/#comment-91489</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It appears that Rekers&#039; condones corporal punishment for gender atypical behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Rekers&#8217; condones corporal punishment for gender atypical behavior.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/06/08/cnn-efforts-to-change-feminine-boy-created-a-troubled-man/#comment-91485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DAVE G said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Cultural standards for &quot;femininity&quot; and &quot;masculinity&quot; are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Agreed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVE G said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cultural standards for &#8220;femininity&#8221; and &#8220;masculinity&#8221; are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Biblical spanking - LOL.  You have to permanently disfigure a child before he will call it abuse?  So-called offenses?  This man is insane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biblical spanking &#8211; LOL.  You have to permanently disfigure a child before he will call it abuse?  So-called offenses?  This man is insane.</p>
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