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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, both Lithuania and Latvia are in the EU. Estonia is working on draft laws to provide for civil unions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am sooooooo glad that Uganda is not a member of the European Union.
&lt;blockquote&gt;You had to back-track, didn&#039;t you, &#039;Maazi&#039;? ....&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I have never back-tracked on anything. Gayism is unacceptable to (most) Africans in general and (most) Ugandans in particular. For that reason, the Ugandan State has responsibility to update our laws to combat militant gay sex advocacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, both Lithuania and Latvia are in the EU. Estonia is working on draft laws to provide for civil unions.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am sooooooo glad that Uganda is not a member of the European Union.</p>
<blockquote><p>You had to back-track, didn&#8217;t you, &#8216;Maazi&#8217;? &#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have never back-tracked on anything. Gayism is unacceptable to (most) Africans in general and (most) Ugandans in particular. For that reason, the Ugandan State has responsibility to update our laws to combat militant gay sex advocacy.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Maazi&#039;
One more (&lt;strong&gt;very important&lt;/strong&gt;) point: if UG followed the Lithuanian approach, I suspect that most (knowledgeable) people would regard this as a very considerable &lt;strong&gt;improvement&lt;/strong&gt; on the &lt;em&gt;status quo&lt;/em&gt;, even if their support for such an approach was not entirely unqualified.
If this were to happen, I, for one, would cease my campaigning activities with immediate effect.  After all, whether UG provides for things like civil partnerships is, IMHO, an &lt;strong&gt;internal&lt;/strong&gt; matter for the Republic of Uganda.  But creating &#039;Bahati-style&#039; human rights catastrophes is always an &lt;strong&gt;international&lt;/strong&gt; matter, because it is usually other countries that have to pick up the pieces!
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Lithuania]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Maazi&#8217;<br />
One more (<strong>very important</strong>) point: if UG followed the Lithuanian approach, I suspect that most (knowledgeable) people would regard this as a very considerable <strong>improvement</strong> on the <em>status quo</em>, even if their support for such an approach was not entirely unqualified.<br />
If this were to happen, I, for one, would cease my campaigning activities with immediate effect.  After all, whether UG provides for things like civil partnerships is, IMHO, an <strong>internal</strong> matter for the Republic of Uganda.  But creating &#8216;Bahati-style&#8217; human rights catastrophes is always an <strong>international</strong> matter, because it is usually other countries that have to pick up the pieces!<br />
FYI: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Lithuania" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Lithuania</a></p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[ken- Yes. Will update if I get new information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ken- Yes. Will update if I get new information.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;He did not have to propose what is effectively legalised genocide;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t think western outrage was primarily about the harshness of the bill. It was about the idea of prohibiting gayism at a time when same-sex marriage is in vogue back in their societies.
Lets face it;  even if Bahati had proposed a tame bill akin to the one that Republic of Lithuania---where gay sex is legal--- proposed  to keep gayism from venturing outside the confines of the bedroom, there still would have been loud howls of disapproval from the usual suspects outside Africa. The Burundians faced similar western outrage over their extremely tame bill which merely proposes prison sentences or the option of paying a fine for the crime of buggery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He did not have to propose what is effectively legalised genocide;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think western outrage was primarily about the harshness of the bill. It was about the idea of prohibiting gayism at a time when same-sex marriage is in vogue back in their societies.<br />
Lets face it;  even if Bahati had proposed a tame bill akin to the one that Republic of Lithuania&#8212;where gay sex is legal&#8212; proposed  to keep gayism from venturing outside the confines of the bedroom, there still would have been loud howls of disapproval from the usual suspects outside Africa. The Burundians faced similar western outrage over their extremely tame bill which merely proposes prison sentences or the option of paying a fine for the crime of buggery.</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for this alleged &#039;Lithuanian&#039; hypocrisy: &#039;phooey&#039;!
There is no reason why a country that does not sanction &#039;same-sex marriage&#039; should not have anti-hate laws.  All it is saying is this: &#039;we do&#039;t approve of hatred against people because they are gay, but neither do we approve of &#039;gay marriages&#039;.  OK, so that&#039;s not my own view, but - in my opinion - what Lithuania does is an internal matter for Lithuania &lt;strong&gt;provided she does not breach fundamental human rights&lt;/strong&gt;.
If Lithuania wishes to join the EU, she will need to abide by the terms of the European Union Treaty, and provide for same-sex civil unions in her civil law.  But that is another issue.  I would of course be pleased if she chose to do so, as well she might.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for this alleged &#8216;Lithuanian&#8217; hypocrisy: &#8216;phooey&#8217;!<br />
There is no reason why a country that does not sanction &#8216;same-sex marriage&#8217; should not have anti-hate laws.  All it is saying is this: &#8216;we do&#8217;t approve of hatred against people because they are gay, but neither do we approve of &#8216;gay marriages&#8217;.  OK, so that&#8217;s not my own view, but &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; what Lithuania does is an internal matter for Lithuania <strong>provided she does not breach fundamental human rights</strong>.<br />
If Lithuania wishes to join the EU, she will need to abide by the terms of the European Union Treaty, and provide for same-sex civil unions in her civil law.  But that is another issue.  I would of course be pleased if she chose to do so, as well she might.</p>
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