Comments on: Breaking: Ugandan Parliament stalled on technicality, fate of anti-gay bill uncertain; Parliament adjourned sine die

By: anteros

anteros — Thu, 31 May 2018 00:54:03 +0000

what a relief!! how do i even begin thanking each person who… *overwhelmed*

By: Warren

Warren — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

Maazi – You sound like an incoming MP. Even privately to me, I wish you would identify yourself.
At any rate, you are correct about the courts. I think the AHB would have been challenged immediately on several grounds.
And what is XXXXXXX?

By: Maazi NCO

Maazi NCO — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

Bahati will have to ask Parliament permission to move AHB-II as a private member’s bill.

The extremities of the original Bahati Bill made it irredeemably “radioactive” for our people occupying the executive branch of the government, who have to engage in the thankless and dirty work of buttering up to our foreign blackmailer-friends. I think David Bahati has achieved the debate he wanted so I strongly doubt there would be any bill like the original 2009 Anti-Homosexuality Bill ever presented before parliament again.
I am sure the domestic agents of the foreign gay lobbies will take a break from provoking the Ugandan masses for a couple of months (or perhaps several months) to celebrate the end of what they may want to call “parliamentary sabre-rattling”.
We are happy that the executive branch understands that certain NGO activities will eventually throw up serious social stability issues if not contained and limited. For that reason, an alternative approach fully coordinated with the executive branch will be followed up in the new parliament at a time of our choosing. So Warren you have your work cut out for you from today to year 2016. Happy reporting !!!

By: anteros

anteros — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

“Nonetheless, he knew that
the tale he had to tell could
not be one of a final victory.
It could only be the record of
what had had to be done,
and what assuredly would
have to be done again in the
never-ending fight against
terror and its relentless
onslaughts, despite their
personal afflictions, by all
who, while unable to be
saints but refusing to bow
down to pestilences, strive
their utmost to be healers. ”
— Albert Camus

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

And we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that the overall situation in UG remains tense and complex, and that the human rights of many people (gay and straight) are being compromised.

By: jwalt101, ZA

jwalt101, ZA — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

this is an empty victory with uncertainty clouding the air in africa… what next? i live in africa and can confirm that this is not a good sign of the times, you have to fight to the teeth to uphold your civil rights at all times or be trampled on!

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Wed, 30 May 2018 21:16:32 +0000

Richard,

Mr. Blakesee, unpalatable though it is, speaking in terms of ‘wars’ and ‘battles’ is necessary and I make no apology for it

I don’t know why this is addressed to me.
Warren,
There seems to be a common person at the posting repeatedly at the threads you decided to end…

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:27:34 +0000

Returning to the ‘paedophilia’ claims by ‘WUG’: here’s a fairly substantial review of the various studies that have been carried out: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Here is the conclusion of the review:-
“The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.”
@ Warren : Do you have any comments you feel should be made on this? Is it a fair and balanced assessment?

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:27:34 +0000

@ WUG
You miss the point … again. (And anyway, I don’t believe those statistics – they are 25 years old, and are – I daresay – based on all kinds of ‘assumptions’.)
If people abuse children, then there should be sanctions against them. If someone rapes another person, the rapist should be held to account. But Bahati wants to kill people who have done neither of these things (see Clause 3 of the Bill and his comments to Jeff Sharlet). If you support his bill, then you are effectively saying that you want the same thing. How does that fit with ‘reaching out in compassion’?
And what has that Daily Mail article got to do with homosexuality? Homosexuality is not mentioned. (If that’s the best you can do …)

By: WakefulUgandan

WakefulUgandan — Wed, 30 May 2018 20:27:34 +0000

I notice that you are no longer contesting our contention that the Bill has provisions for ‘consenting adults’ to be hanged. Good. (Deep down, you knew we were telling the truth.)

Ever the guesser.

As to the other matters, I see no need of repeating myself.

Did you read that?
Ugandan will not become a homosexual colony forget about that?
If you still need to be told what the difference is between the digestive system and the reproductive system, Ugandans are not going to teach you that!
Am not out to win an argument with you. I have made my point and I think you are now faced with the grim reality of living in a paedophilia country with teachers who groom their male pupils for sex for decades (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7129509/Paedophile-teacher-jailed-for-grooming-male-pupils-for-sex-with-sweets-and-computer-games.html)…
“Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor” (Psychological Reports, 1986)
Every 1 in 20 homosexuals is potentially a paedophile… That we shall not allow in Uganda.
Okay my point is made. Now back to stoking the flames into this bill. It must pass soon.