Comments on: David Bahati: Hearings took place today on Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Bill

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Wed, 30 May 2018 17:29:13 +0000

‘Maazi’
I am genuinely interested to hear you explanation regarding these two statements of yours:-
1. “Contrary to Western media propaganda, Gays who keep their heads down and do their stuff privately will be left alone …”
and
2. “… be rest assured [sic], the law (in revised form) will be passed so as to protect Ugandan cultural values.”
They are surely inconsistent.
Furthermore, you clearly hold significantly different views to Bahati, so shouldn’t you be profoundly grateful for the pressure that stopped the Bill being passed back in its original (and, as I type, current) form in late 2009? (It was said by many at the time that its passage was extremely likely, but for the international outcry that led M7 to abandon it.)

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:35:01 +0000

I am not sure this is the best place to post this…but I’ll start here:

Although, there is no clear-cut verse in Qur’an that categorically suggests killing of homosexuals, sayings of Prophet Muhammad suggests three types of sentences, and among that one is death. Bilal Philips is suggesting, based on his opinion on the Qur’anic/Prophetic principles of society. He is not advising the Islamic judiciary to kill any gay person they found, but what he is “suggesting” is judicial punishment of death sentence for those who confess or are seen “performing homosexual acts” by “four reliable witnesses without any doubt.”
The essence of Islamic laws is to protect the life of human beings. And it happens that sometimes killing of a person can save thousands and sometimes millions of lives. The Islamic judiciary can punish a person with death sentence to save others’ lives.

I think this is a quote from a prominent Muslim in Canada.
I found it here, in an interesting article criticizing a public school for facilitating Muslim prayers on Fridays which forbid “unclean” adolescent girls from participating.
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/4259/28/

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:35:01 +0000

I am not sure this is the best place to post this…but I’ll start here:

Although, there is no clear-cut verse in Qur’an that categorically suggests killing of homosexuals, sayings of Prophet Muhammad suggests three types of sentences, and among that one is death. Bilal Philips is suggesting, based on his opinion on the Qur’anic/Prophetic principles of society. He is not advising the Islamic judiciary to kill any gay person they found, but what he is “suggesting” is judicial punishment of death sentence for those who confess or are seen “performing homosexual acts” by “four reliable witnesses without any doubt.”
The essence of Islamic laws is to protect the life of human beings. And it happens that sometimes killing of a person can save thousands and sometimes millions of lives. The Islamic judiciary can punish a person with death sentence to save others’ lives.

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Sun, 08 May 2011 14:57:44 +0000

By: Richard Willmer

Richard Willmer — Sun, 08 May 2011 07:09:51 +0000

Indeed, Wendy, the comparison is defective for two reasons:-
1. Uganda is contemplating new discriminatory laws; Saudi Arabia is not.
2. Uganda receives aid from the US and EU; Saudi Arabia does not.
Also: the Bahati Bill, as drafted, has some uniquely savage and totalitarian features (let us not forget that combining the Clause about informing with the notion of a ‘serial offender’ could, at least in theory, lead to death by hanging for repeat ‘non-informers’).
But I’m still interested to hear ‘Maazi’s’ explanation regarding his apparently conflicting statements.