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	Comments on: David Barton on Thomas Jefferson &#8211; In the Year of Our Lord Christ	</title>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I`m going to side with David Barton on this. Most scholars believe that Jefferson along with the other founding fathers were either deists or even atheists, which is far from the truth. Jefferson was very much a Christian... as were the others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`m going to side with David Barton on this. Most scholars believe that Jefferson along with the other founding fathers were either deists or even atheists, which is far from the truth. Jefferson was very much a Christian&#8230; as were the others.</p>
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		By: Etaoin Shrdlu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Etaoin Shrdlu]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The real problem with the whole &quot;year of our Lord&quot; argument is that it completely ignores one key fact:  that was simply the CONVENTION for stating the date in the Western World.  Even today we use a date (2012) based on the assumed date of Jesus&#039; birth.  (I say &quot;assumed&quot; because no one knows for sure it it&#039;s the correct date.)
I assure you that although I sign my checks with &quot;2012&quot;, as a Jew I am most certainly NOT recognizing the birth of Jesus by doing so!  Don&#039;t asssume Jefferson was either.  (Or any of the other Founders for that matter.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with the whole &#8220;year of our Lord&#8221; argument is that it completely ignores one key fact:  that was simply the CONVENTION for stating the date in the Western World.  Even today we use a date (2012) based on the assumed date of Jesus&#8217; birth.  (I say &#8220;assumed&#8221; because no one knows for sure it it&#8217;s the correct date.)<br />
I assure you that although I sign my checks with &#8220;2012&#8221;, as a Jew I am most certainly NOT recognizing the birth of Jesus by doing so!  Don&#8217;t asssume Jefferson was either.  (Or any of the other Founders for that matter.)</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe - Would a Christian &lt;a href=&quot;/2011/04/13/more-on-thomas-jefferson-and-christianity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;say this&lt;/a&gt;?:
&lt;blockquote&gt;And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Would a &lt;a href=&quot;/2011/04/12/was-the-jefferson-bible-an-evangelism-tool/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christian take scissors to the Bible&lt;/a&gt; and cut out the virgin birth and the resurrection as a means of demonstrating the real teachings of Jesus?
&lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA136&#038;dq=the%20immaculate%20conception%20of%20Jesus%2C%20his%20deification%2C%20the%20creation%20of%20the%20world%20by%20him%2C%20his%20miraculous%20powers%2C%20his%20resurrection%20and%20visible%20ascension%2C%20his%20corporeal%20presence%20in%20the%20Eucharist%2C%20the%20Trinity%3B%20original%20sin%2C%20atonement%2C%20regeneration%2C%20election%2C%20orders%20of%20Hierarchy&#038;ei=IQWmTeqoEsTngQff6JCSCg&#038;ct=result&#038;id=vvVVhCadyK4C&#038;output=text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Click the link&lt;/a&gt; to read the words highlighted in yellow and ask yourself if a real Christian would say those things.
Anything read on the Wallbuilders website must be checked thoroughly. I suspect there is some truth there, but so far the claims about Jefferson and Adams I have looked into have not been accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; Would a Christian <a href="/2011/04/13/more-on-thomas-jefferson-and-christianity/" rel="nofollow">say this</a>?:</p>
<blockquote><p>And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.</p></blockquote>
<p>Would a <a href="/2011/04/12/was-the-jefferson-bible-an-evangelism-tool/" rel="nofollow">Christian take scissors to the Bible</a> and cut out the virgin birth and the resurrection as a means of demonstrating the real teachings of Jesus?<br />
<a href="http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA136&#038;dq=the%20immaculate%20conception%20of%20Jesus%2C%20his%20deification%2C%20the%20creation%20of%20the%20world%20by%20him%2C%20his%20miraculous%20powers%2C%20his%20resurrection%20and%20visible%20ascension%2C%20his%20corporeal%20presence%20in%20the%20Eucharist%2C%20the%20Trinity%3B%20original%20sin%2C%20atonement%2C%20regeneration%2C%20election%2C%20orders%20of%20Hierarchy&#038;ei=IQWmTeqoEsTngQff6JCSCg&#038;ct=result&#038;id=vvVVhCadyK4C&#038;output=text" rel="nofollow">Click the link</a> to read the words highlighted in yellow and ask yourself if a real Christian would say those things.<br />
Anything read on the Wallbuilders website must be checked thoroughly. I suspect there is some truth there, but so far the claims about Jefferson and Adams I have looked into have not been accurate.</p>
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		By: Etaoin Shrdlu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Etaoin Shrdlu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The real problem with the whole &quot;year of our Lord&quot; argument is that it completely ignores one key fact:  that was simply the CONVENTION for stating the date in the Western World.  Even today we use a date (2012) based on the assumed date of Jesus&#039; birth.  (I say &quot;assumed&quot; because no one knows for sure it it&#039;s the correct date.)
I assure you that although I sign my checks with &quot;2012&quot;, as a Jew I am most certainly NOT recognizing the birth of Jesus by doing so!  Don&#039;t asssume Jefferson was either.  (Or any of the other Founders for that matter.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with the whole &#8220;year of our Lord&#8221; argument is that it completely ignores one key fact:  that was simply the CONVENTION for stating the date in the Western World.  Even today we use a date (2012) based on the assumed date of Jesus&#8217; birth.  (I say &#8220;assumed&#8221; because no one knows for sure it it&#8217;s the correct date.)<br />
I assure you that although I sign my checks with &#8220;2012&#8221;, as a Jew I am most certainly NOT recognizing the birth of Jesus by doing so!  Don&#8217;t asssume Jefferson was either.  (Or any of the other Founders for that matter.)</p>
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		By: sharkey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sharkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreeing with Warren, anyone who edits the bible &quot;Jefferson Bible,&quot;  is not possibly a christian.  There are of Evangelical pastors today that use Christ&#039;s name, but are  changing up the bible to make it more &quot;contemporary&quot; or palatable?  The Bible is clear that any one who adds to or takes away from the bible shall be taken out of the book of life...Revelations 22.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreeing with Warren, anyone who edits the bible &#8220;Jefferson Bible,&#8221;  is not possibly a christian.  There are of Evangelical pastors today that use Christ&#8217;s name, but are  changing up the bible to make it more &#8220;contemporary&#8221; or palatable?  The Bible is clear that any one who adds to or takes away from the bible shall be taken out of the book of life&#8230;Revelations 22.</p>
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