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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ &#039;Maazi&#039;
I thought you had mentioned Zimbabwe, but now see that you had not done so.  (You did a while back, suggesting that, because Mugabe said or thought such-and-such, then it must be a good idea!)
So who is (one of) my contact(s) then?  Tell me, dear!  Let&#039;s see if you are correct.
As for &#039;good social policy&#039;: why do think that there is such opposition to the Bahitler Bill among senior politicians &lt;strong&gt;despite&lt;/strong&gt; the fact that gay bashing is allegedly so popular in Uganda?
One last question: in what capacity do &lt;strong&gt;you&lt;/strong&gt; speak for the &#039;Ugandan State&#039;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ &#8216;Maazi&#8217;<br />
I thought you had mentioned Zimbabwe, but now see that you had not done so.  (You did a while back, suggesting that, because Mugabe said or thought such-and-such, then it must be a good idea!)<br />
So who is (one of) my contact(s) then?  Tell me, dear!  Let&#8217;s see if you are correct.<br />
As for &#8216;good social policy&#8217;: why do think that there is such opposition to the Bahitler Bill among senior politicians <strong>despite</strong> the fact that gay bashing is allegedly so popular in Uganda?<br />
One last question: in what capacity do <strong>you</strong> speak for the &#8216;Ugandan State&#8217;?</p>
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		By: anteros		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[...says Maazi while anxiously paying attention to the &quot;many western gay sex lobbyists commenting here&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;says Maazi while anxiously paying attention to the &#8220;many western gay sex lobbyists commenting here&#8221;</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/04/13/ugandan-government-negotiates-with-bahati-over-antigay-bill/#comment-90912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Earlier today I had an email exchange with a member of the Legal and Parliamentary Affairs committee who told me that the committee will raise the issue before Parliament as a matter of urgent concern next week.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Just wanted to add that some representatives of the Ugandan people have planned for the worst case scenario, but hope for the best case scenario. The prognosis for both scenarios are very good. The difference between the best and worst case scenarios is just the space of time]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Earlier today I had an email exchange with a member of the Legal and Parliamentary Affairs committee who told me that the committee will raise the issue before Parliament as a matter of urgent concern next week.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just wanted to add that some representatives of the Ugandan people have planned for the worst case scenario, but hope for the best case scenario. The prognosis for both scenarios are very good. The difference between the best and worst case scenarios is just the space of time</p>
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		By: Richard Willmer		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/04/13/ugandan-government-negotiates-with-bahati-over-antigay-bill/#comment-90913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Willmer]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the Bill: one problem that M7 faces is that any further discriminatory laws (as opposed to &lt;strong&gt;non&lt;/strong&gt;-discriminatory laws designed to protect children) would elicit a strongly negative response from &#039;the West&#039;, especially countries like Sweden, Norway, Germany, the Obama Administration and possibly even the UK (where the precise of nature and scope of &#039;developmental partnership&#039; is now currently subject to &#039;review&#039; - so I&#039;ve recently been told by UK Foreign Ministry officials - partly in the light of the recent Bahitlerite antics).
The &#039;solution&#039; for the authorities is very clear to many of us: bring forward sensible, gender-neutral, non-discriminatory legislation to address such things as the sexual exploitation of the young and the vulnerable.  That could break the current logjam by effectively &#039;neutralising&#039; the anti-gay extremists.
By the way, a well-connected friend of mine, who is also an NRM functionary, has said this today:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;... the Monitor today reports that Hon Eriya Kategaya has asked Hon Bahati to &quot;be so kind&quot; and save the country from embarrassment by withdrawing his ill-advised anti gay bill.  How about it Hon Bahati?  Can you be so nice and save us from your mischief?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the Bill: one problem that M7 faces is that any further discriminatory laws (as opposed to <strong>non</strong>-discriminatory laws designed to protect children) would elicit a strongly negative response from &#8216;the West&#8217;, especially countries like Sweden, Norway, Germany, the Obama Administration and possibly even the UK (where the precise of nature and scope of &#8216;developmental partnership&#8217; is now currently subject to &#8216;review&#8217; &#8211; so I&#8217;ve recently been told by UK Foreign Ministry officials &#8211; partly in the light of the recent Bahitlerite antics).<br />
The &#8216;solution&#8217; for the authorities is very clear to many of us: bring forward sensible, gender-neutral, non-discriminatory legislation to address such things as the sexual exploitation of the young and the vulnerable.  That could break the current logjam by effectively &#8216;neutralising&#8217; the anti-gay extremists.<br />
By the way, a well-connected friend of mine, who is also an NRM functionary, has said this today:<br />
<em>&#8220;&#8230; the Monitor today reports that Hon Eriya Kategaya has asked Hon Bahati to &#8220;be so kind&#8221; and save the country from embarrassment by withdrawing his ill-advised anti gay bill.  How about it Hon Bahati?  Can you be so nice and save us from your mischief?&#8221;</em></p>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Maazi....&lt;/strong&gt;  I reiterate again&#8212;there is no way the Ugandan State will tolerate militant gay sex advocacy especially when it risks potential civil unrest.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So you&#039;ll gladly allow plain old gay advocacy minus the militancy and sex?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Maazi&#8230;.</strong>  I reiterate again&#8212;there is no way the Ugandan State will tolerate militant gay sex advocacy especially when it risks potential civil unrest.</p></blockquote>
<p>So you&#8217;ll gladly allow plain old gay advocacy minus the militancy and sex?</p>
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