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	Comments on: Bryan Fischer: Freedom of religion only for Christians	</title>
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		By: Throbert McGee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Throbert McGee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hazemyth, thanks for the link to Volokh Conspiracy, which specifically mentions Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Likewise, Thomas Jefferson wrote that the Virginia statute protecting religious freedom, which he drafted, deliberately covered &quot;the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination,&quot; and that &lt;strong&gt;a proposal to mention Christ in the bill &quot;was rejected by a great majority&lt;/strong&gt;, in proof that they meant to comprehend&quot; all religions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The VC post also notes that prior to the drafting of the U.S. Constitution, various state constitutions had included language that protected any and all religious beliefs &lt;em&gt;so long as they acknowledged Christ&lt;/em&gt;, or any and all religious beliefs &lt;em&gt;so long as they acknowledged a Supreme Creator&lt;/em&gt;, etc. Thus, the framers of the Constitution had been very much aware of these alternative phrasings -- but rejected them -- when they chose the language used in the Constitution&#039;s &quot;no religious test&quot; clause and in the First Amendment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hazemyth, thanks for the link to Volokh Conspiracy, which specifically mentions Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom:</p>
<blockquote><p>Likewise, Thomas Jefferson wrote that the Virginia statute protecting religious freedom, which he drafted, deliberately covered &#8220;the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination,&#8221; and that <strong>a proposal to mention Christ in the bill &#8220;was rejected by a great majority</strong>, in proof that they meant to comprehend&#8221; all religions.</p></blockquote>
<p>The VC post also notes that prior to the drafting of the U.S. Constitution, various state constitutions had included language that protected any and all religious beliefs <em>so long as they acknowledged Christ</em>, or any and all religious beliefs <em>so long as they acknowledged a Supreme Creator</em>, etc. Thus, the framers of the Constitution had been very much aware of these alternative phrasings &#8212; but rejected them &#8212; when they chose the language used in the Constitution&#8217;s &#8220;no religious test&#8221; clause and in the First Amendment.</p>
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		By: hazemyth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hazemyth]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just reading this Volokh Conspiracy post, which offers further evidence of the framers&#039; ecumenical understanding of the freedom of religion:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/2011/03/25/islam-and-the-first-amendment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islam and the First Amendment&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading this Volokh Conspiracy post, which offers further evidence of the framers&#8217; ecumenical understanding of the freedom of religion:<br />
<a href="http://volokh.com/2011/03/25/islam-and-the-first-amendment/" rel="nofollow">Islam and the First Amendment</a></p>
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		By: Juan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose I have to mention that I am left of center. And atheist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I have to mention that I am left of center. And atheist.</p>
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		By: ken		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/03/23/bryan-fischer-freedom-of-religion-only-for-christians/#comment-87952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ironically, the 1st Amend clause on religion is there to protect the people from the ideas espoused by brian fischer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, the 1st Amend clause on religion is there to protect the people from the ideas espoused by brian fischer.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/03/23/bryan-fischer-freedom-of-religion-only-for-christians/#comment-87958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Lisa.  It was a pleasure to read more excerpts from Justice Story&#039;s book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Lisa.  It was a pleasure to read more excerpts from Justice Story&#8217;s book.</p>
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		By: David Blakeslee		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/03/23/bryan-fischer-freedom-of-religion-only-for-christians/#comment-87955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Blakeslee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks familiar:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Reading the relevant sections, it becomes clear that Fischer has pulled out a section out of the context of Story&#039;s eloquent tribute to freedom of conscience that is the First Amendment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Where have we seen this before...pulling out material from its proper context?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks familiar:</p>
<blockquote><p>Reading the relevant sections, it becomes clear that Fischer has pulled out a section out of the context of Story&#8217;s eloquent tribute to freedom of conscience that is the First Amendment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where have we seen this before&#8230;pulling out material from its proper context?</p>
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		By: George Jones		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very insightful post - thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful post &#8211; thank you!</p>
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		By: Lisa Salazar		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/03/23/bryan-fischer-freedom-of-religion-only-for-christians/#comment-79431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Salazar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;They knew, that bigotry was unceasingly vigilant in its stratagems, to secure to itself an exclusive ascendancy over the human mind; and that intolerance was ever ready to arm itself with all the terrors of the civil power to exterminate those, who doubted its dogmas, or resisted its infallibility.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What a wonderful sense of clarity Joseph Story ascribed to the framer&#039;s of the constitution. Where is this same sense of clarity in today&#039;s vitriolic dialog visa vie all matter of social issues, whether it be Islam, education, universal coverage for all members of society, same sex marriage and the definition of family, and the rights of sexual minorities?
I, for one, would hope that reasonable people would prevail in their attempt to uphold the principle of the separation of church and state in the never-ending dialog. I also hope that the emerging nations that are currently challenged and handicapped by the influence of their religiosity&#8212;case in point Uganda, where sexual minorities are under attack&#8212;might also embrace this principle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They knew, that bigotry was unceasingly vigilant in its stratagems, to secure to itself an exclusive ascendancy over the human mind; and that intolerance was ever ready to arm itself with all the terrors of the civil power to exterminate those, who doubted its dogmas, or resisted its infallibility.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a wonderful sense of clarity Joseph Story ascribed to the framer&#8217;s of the constitution. Where is this same sense of clarity in today&#8217;s vitriolic dialog visa vie all matter of social issues, whether it be Islam, education, universal coverage for all members of society, same sex marriage and the definition of family, and the rights of sexual minorities?<br />
I, for one, would hope that reasonable people would prevail in their attempt to uphold the principle of the separation of church and state in the never-ending dialog. I also hope that the emerging nations that are currently challenged and handicapped by the influence of their religiosity&#8212;case in point Uganda, where sexual minorities are under attack&#8212;might also embrace this principle.</p>
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		By: Jayhuck		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2011/03/23/bryan-fischer-freedom-of-religion-only-for-christians/#comment-79428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jayhuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I LOVE The Volokh Conspiracy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE The Volokh Conspiracy!</p>
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		By: Etaoin Shrdlu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Etaoin Shrdlu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 18:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s important to recognize that Story based what he wrote on four main things:
1) Sir William Blackstone&#039;s Commentaries on the British Common Law, not the Constitution (he died before it was written).
2) Montesquies&#039; &quot;Spirit of the Law&quot;, written in 1848 (again, before the Constitution).
3) A brief excerpt from ONE committee of Congress debating the FIRST DRAFT of what would become the First Amendment (during which NOTHING was said supporting Story&#039;s opinion).
4) His home State&#039;s (Massachusetts) practice of having an established church (Congregationalist).  Ironically, the very year Story ventured his opinion (1833) was the year Massachusetts DISESTABLISHED the church!
In short, Story&#039;s opinion is supported by NOTHING!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to recognize that Story based what he wrote on four main things:<br />
1) Sir William Blackstone&#8217;s Commentaries on the British Common Law, not the Constitution (he died before it was written).<br />
2) Montesquies&#8217; &#8220;Spirit of the Law&#8221;, written in 1848 (again, before the Constitution).<br />
3) A brief excerpt from ONE committee of Congress debating the FIRST DRAFT of what would become the First Amendment (during which NOTHING was said supporting Story&#8217;s opinion).<br />
4) His home State&#8217;s (Massachusetts) practice of having an established church (Congregationalist).  Ironically, the very year Story ventured his opinion (1833) was the year Massachusetts DISESTABLISHED the church!<br />
In short, Story&#8217;s opinion is supported by NOTHING!</p>
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